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:Why do you hide behind a smoke screen of conservatism? Jesus forgave them for what they did to him on the cross; since they did not repent, any sins after that would still send them to hell. Its [[conservative denial]] to pretend otherwise. --[[User:LanthanumK|L]][[User talk:LanthanumK|K]] 21:17, 19 November 2010 (EST)
 
:Why do you hide behind a smoke screen of conservatism? Jesus forgave them for what they did to him on the cross; since they did not repent, any sins after that would still send them to hell. Its [[conservative denial]] to pretend otherwise. --[[User:LanthanumK|L]][[User talk:LanthanumK|K]] 21:17, 19 November 2010 (EST)
 
:Jesus did forgive them while on the cross, but did that mean those same people were given eternal life on the spot?  No.  And while Jesus was forgiving them, they sat amongst themselves casting the dice for the clothes they had ripped from His body before they crucified Him.  Kinda sounds like they continued with their sinning despite what Jesus did, doesn't it?  I think you had better read your Bible a little closer; maybe it'll help clear the fog you've created around yourself.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 21:36, 19 November 2010 (EST)
 
:Jesus did forgive them while on the cross, but did that mean those same people were given eternal life on the spot?  No.  And while Jesus was forgiving them, they sat amongst themselves casting the dice for the clothes they had ripped from His body before they crucified Him.  Kinda sounds like they continued with their sinning despite what Jesus did, doesn't it?  I think you had better read your Bible a little closer; maybe it'll help clear the fog you've created around yourself.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 21:36, 19 November 2010 (EST)
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: The key thing to keep in mind here, I think, is that just because Jesus forgives you for some specific sins, that doesn't mean he forgives you for ALL your sins, and especially for sins you may commit in the future. So someone forgiven by Jesus can still go to Hell if they continue to be sinful afterwards. --[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 22:37, 19 November 2010 (EST)

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