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:::In that category are 1) Catholics worship Mary. Despite tbe Catholic denial, the Protestant cannot be treated as flatly wrong. It's still a matter of dispute. It depends on how one defines "worship," and I was fair to both sides there. And 2) when the line says that mainline Protestant denominations believe or don't believe X, we'd better be sure that every last mainline Protestant denomination actually does take the position described. That was not the case as the text stood before I edited it. Thnx. --[[User:Wycliffe|Wycliffe]] 13:24, 31 December 2010 (EST)
:::In that category are 1) Catholics worship Mary. Despite tbe Catholic denial, the Protestant cannot be treated as flatly wrong. It's still a matter of dispute. It depends on how one defines "worship," and I was fair to both sides there. And 2) when the line says that mainline Protestant denominations believe or don't believe X, we'd better be sure that every last mainline Protestant denomination actually does take the position described. That was not the case as the text stood before I edited it. Thnx. --[[User:Wycliffe|Wycliffe]] 13:24, 31 December 2010 (EST)
::::Thanks, Wycliffe, your changes are excellent now! Sorry if I reverted too much; your current version is more than satisfactory, though. Thanks again! [[User:Tzoran|Tyler Zoran]] <sup>[[User talk:Tzoran|Talk]]</sup> 13:47, 31 December 2010 (EST)
::::Thanks, Wycliffe, your changes are excellent now! Sorry if I reverted too much; your current version is more than satisfactory, though. Thanks again! [[User:Tzoran|Tyler Zoran]] <sup>[[User talk:Tzoran|Talk]]</sup> 13:47, 31 December 2010 (EST)
:::::I request that Wycliffe justify the scandalous claim that Catholics worship Mary. He assert it as fact. It is most often a hoary lie that is told to deride and scorn Catholics for hundreds of years. I note that Wycliffe accepts there is a Catholic denial, but gives it no credit and does not acknowledge the Biblical source of Catholic's adoration of Mary as well as of all Saints with whom we have communion. That is not fair and it is part and parcel of the anti-Catholic nonsense that goes on on this site. I won't stand for it. We are directed by no less than Paul himself to venerate saints. They are of Christ himself. Mary is my personal protector and redeemer yet it is the Father or her Child, who you might also know as '''God''' that I and all Christians worship. Catholics and I assume many protestants ''adore'' and ''venerate'' Mary. We do not worship her and we are not pagans or idolators. I will appreciate some justification of the claim that we worship her or expect Wycliffe qualify or retract this assertion. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 15:05, 31 December 2010 (EST)