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I did not realize that this would be as contentious as it was.  The statement is simply poorly worded, I assume unintentionally, and appears to place the blame squarely on one person's shoulders.  This is just factually innacurate, nothing more, nothing less.  We accept credit where credit is due, and take blame where blame is appropriate - and the blame belongs to the vast majority of the 110th Congress, both the liberal reps and ours - and to deny that is some kind of revisionism, which will not be tolerated.  I'm certainly more than willing to be corrected on this, but you can either site sources that support your viewpoint, or you cannot - it really is that easy.  In that case, the article would read something like, "then-Senator Obama lobbied heavily for the moratorium to lapse, and led a congressional coalition consisting of Senators Blah, Blah and Blah and Congressmen Such-and-such and So-and-so to further that end, etc..." accompanied by supporting references.  I am afraid, however, that a "nuh-uh," or, "because I said so," is simply Not Good Enough.  We're counteracting liberal bias, here, not populating the internet with more unfounded claptrap. [[User:RyanDav|RyanDav]] 19:26, 3 January 2011 (EST)
 
I did not realize that this would be as contentious as it was.  The statement is simply poorly worded, I assume unintentionally, and appears to place the blame squarely on one person's shoulders.  This is just factually innacurate, nothing more, nothing less.  We accept credit where credit is due, and take blame where blame is appropriate - and the blame belongs to the vast majority of the 110th Congress, both the liberal reps and ours - and to deny that is some kind of revisionism, which will not be tolerated.  I'm certainly more than willing to be corrected on this, but you can either site sources that support your viewpoint, or you cannot - it really is that easy.  In that case, the article would read something like, "then-Senator Obama lobbied heavily for the moratorium to lapse, and led a congressional coalition consisting of Senators Blah, Blah and Blah and Congressmen Such-and-such and So-and-so to further that end, etc..." accompanied by supporting references.  I am afraid, however, that a "nuh-uh," or, "because I said so," is simply Not Good Enough.  We're counteracting liberal bias, here, not populating the internet with more unfounded claptrap. [[User:RyanDav|RyanDav]] 19:26, 3 January 2011 (EST)
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:If you please, write here your proposal for how this should be written, including the source links.  If Obama lobbied heavily for the moritorium to lapse, then the source evidence will say it; if he was a part of a coalition of people, then again the evidence will support that.  Since this article is about Obama, it should lean on what he has done while in office.  But as far as what the 110th Congress did or didn't do, oh yes, I am in total agreement with you...and so were the vast majority of voters back in November. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:00, 3 January 2011 (EST)
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