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::::When I read the watch analogy my reaction was sort of "who are you trying to fool?" (and I believe in ID).  I wish we had something better to use but I don't have any suggestions yet.  [[User:Miles|Miles]] 16:42, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::::When I read the watch analogy my reaction was sort of "who are you trying to fool?" (and I believe in ID).  I wish we had something better to use but I don't have any suggestions yet.  [[User:Miles|Miles]] 16:42, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
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:::: Is the point not that the "great designer", or whatever it is to be called, is infinitely more powerful/intelligent than mankind and as such is capable of infinitely greater complexity of construction?  Our puny earthling brains cannot comprehend the intelligence behind the design involved in the universe and so we need to reduce the argument to something which we can relate to comfortably.  How are we supposed to understand something (even the idea behind it) if we can't contextualise the argument to something more suiting our own intelligences?  We can conceive of designing and creating a watch. The "great designer" is infinitely greater than us, therefore he could conceive of and create the universe. [[User:Airdish|Airdish]] 16:50, 3 April 2007 (EDT)
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