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Talk:John 1-7 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 15:50, March 23, 2011
, 15:50, March 23, 2011→Issue with translation of John 4:53: the original meaning of the verses is clear
::::::::August, the original meaning of the verses are clear, and the translation should best represent that original meaning. The fever did leave abruptly -- as fevers sometimes do -- at the same moment that the faith cured him. In my research, I did not find "about" to be the meaning of "ἐν", and such a translation would not reflect the obvious meaning of the verses.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:08, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::August, the original meaning of the verses are clear, and the translation should best represent that original meaning. The fever did leave abruptly -- as fevers sometimes do -- at the same moment that the faith cured him. In my research, I did not find "about" to be the meaning of "ἐν", and such a translation would not reflect the obvious meaning of the verses.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:08, 22 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::''August, the original meaning of the verses are clear, and the translation should best represent that original meaning. ''
:::::::::Indeed, the original meaning of the verses is clear: the seventh month of year is July 1st - July 31st, the seventh day (or - if you prefer - the first day) of a week is Sunday - all of it between Saturday and Monday. The seventh hour of a day (according to Greeks, Romans and Hebrews) started at noon and ended 40-80 minutes later, depending on the season and the place. To indicate something as precise as ''1 o'clock p.m.'', an antic writer would have used a phrase like: ''at the end of the seventh hour'' or even ''at the beginning of the eighth hour''.
:::::::::As a translator shouldn't morph a date like ''in July'' into ''on July, 31st'', he shouldn't introduce a precision which isn't there in the original text: equally ''at the seventh hour'' is not ''1 o'clock p.m.'' If we wish for a modern form, something like ''about 1 p.m.'' seems to be adequate.
:::::::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:50, 23 March 2011 (EDT)