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Talk:Counterexamples to Evolution (view source)
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::If indeed Example 8 refers to '''self-destructive''' behavior, then it does make sense as an example. However, it should be clearly stated that we're referring to behavior that is damaging to the person doing the action. Right now the example suggests that lying and murdering could not have evolutionary benefits; they could - such is the mindset of a Darwinist, but it's the truth. Both of them are mentioned by Dawkins in his book directly. I can give quotes if you'd like. Perhaps we should switch out liars, murderers, and psycopaths with examples like...oh, say, drug addicts, people who purposefully injure themselves, and suicidal people. These self-destructive tendencies are not accounted for by evolution.[[User:Alphanumeric1|Alphanumeric1]] 18:10, 4 December 2010 (EST)
::If indeed Example 8 refers to '''self-destructive''' behavior, then it does make sense as an example. However, it should be clearly stated that we're referring to behavior that is damaging to the person doing the action. Right now the example suggests that lying and murdering could not have evolutionary benefits; they could - such is the mindset of a Darwinist, but it's the truth. Both of them are mentioned by Dawkins in his book directly. I can give quotes if you'd like. Perhaps we should switch out liars, murderers, and psycopaths with examples like...oh, say, drug addicts, people who purposefully injure themselves, and suicidal people. These self-destructive tendencies are not accounted for by evolution.[[User:Alphanumeric1|Alphanumeric1]] 18:10, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:::Not just "could." Darwinists claim that murder isn't immoral because it's common for cuckoo chicks to push other birds' eggs out of nests, and have whole schemes for when lying is "useful." [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 13:00, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
:::Not just "could." Darwinists claim that murder isn't immoral because it's common for cuckoo chicks to push other birds' eggs out of nests, and have whole schemes for when lying is "useful." [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 13:00, 25 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a rational human being who'd say murder isn't immoral. You may be thinking of Social Darwinists, who are completely different from evolutionists in that social darwinism is only very loosely related to actual evolution. Societies are stronger when their members work together and don't kill each other - that's why we don't kill each other. It's more beneficial to pretend we like each other than to just stab each other, because working together means more security and more food. [[User:Kamiwashinda|Kamiwashinda]] 19:33, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
==Linguistics==
Evolution does not require that all languages have a common ancestor. [[User:Kamiwashinda|Kamiwashinda]] 19:33, 15 April 2011 (EDT)