| | Hey Philip. These are good points, and I think you made some good edits. I just remember that there was a lot of frackas about this page on various personal talk pages, and it seemed the old version was a good compromise between YECs and Evolutionists. There were those who felt that the YEC stuff was garbage, and those who thought the science stuff shouldn't be included. It was decided that the Bible would be summarized and the science explained in seperate sections. This seems like a good idea, since both sides get to express their point of view. I'm personally Old Earth creationist, but I think that if YECs want to say the Earth is 6000 years old b/c of a series of "begats" then they should also acknowledge that the Bible teaches geocentricism and Flat Earth (because it really clearly does, although of course that was the normal view when it was written so you can take it as a reflection of the difficulty in literal interpretation) and some of the YECs wanted it there too because it does reflect what the Bible literally says and, surprisingly, what some people still believe. In any case, I think its good for both sides to see the cited sources and biblical passages supporting each of these ideas so they can decide for themselves, and also there will be less further controversy. I had to reregister here so I didn't remember seeing you, much less as a SYSOP, so I thought you were POVing the page! Sorry. What is it you wanted to change, exactly? I think as it is the page does a good job reflecting the Bible and the YEC position (which I am sympathetic to, but obviously you can't take EVERYTHING in the Bible 100% literal.) Anyways, I thought to avoid further fights it was best to let YEC editors have their way with their section. I've thought about adding an OEC section, but don't know what I'd say. I usually just fix errors and such. Maybe this would make a good addition to the article? I just didn't want to start the Earth debate again. It seems like planetary bodies (Earth, Moon) and dinosaurs (and t-rex) are big sources of contention on the site. [[User:Orlenzia|Orlenzia]] | | Hey Philip. These are good points, and I think you made some good edits. I just remember that there was a lot of frackas about this page on various personal talk pages, and it seemed the old version was a good compromise between YECs and Evolutionists. There were those who felt that the YEC stuff was garbage, and those who thought the science stuff shouldn't be included. It was decided that the Bible would be summarized and the science explained in seperate sections. This seems like a good idea, since both sides get to express their point of view. I'm personally Old Earth creationist, but I think that if YECs want to say the Earth is 6000 years old b/c of a series of "begats" then they should also acknowledge that the Bible teaches geocentricism and Flat Earth (because it really clearly does, although of course that was the normal view when it was written so you can take it as a reflection of the difficulty in literal interpretation) and some of the YECs wanted it there too because it does reflect what the Bible literally says and, surprisingly, what some people still believe. In any case, I think its good for both sides to see the cited sources and biblical passages supporting each of these ideas so they can decide for themselves, and also there will be less further controversy. I had to reregister here so I didn't remember seeing you, much less as a SYSOP, so I thought you were POVing the page! Sorry. What is it you wanted to change, exactly? I think as it is the page does a good job reflecting the Bible and the YEC position (which I am sympathetic to, but obviously you can't take EVERYTHING in the Bible 100% literal.) Anyways, I thought to avoid further fights it was best to let YEC editors have their way with their section. I've thought about adding an OEC section, but don't know what I'd say. I usually just fix errors and such. Maybe this would make a good addition to the article? I just didn't want to start the Earth debate again. It seems like planetary bodies (Earth, Moon) and dinosaurs (and t-rex) are big sources of contention on the site. [[User:Orlenzia|Orlenzia]] |
| | + | :YECs don't say that the Earth is 6,000 years old ''solely'' on the basis of the chronogenealogies (although they are pretty good evidence in themselves). The case for the Bible teaching geocentricism and a flat Earth is ''much'' weaker (if you can make a case at all), so there is no comparison there. And ''no Christian'', to my knowledge, recognised as a scientist or biblical scholar believes that the Bible teaches a flat Earth. A ''few'' believe that it teaches geocentricism. And I disagree that a flat Earth was the normal view when it was written. Have a look at [[Flat Earth]]. As for not seeing me, I am fairly new, and have just been made a sysop, so your confusion was understandable. As was mine in seeing that you had made only two edits when you appeared to drastically change two articles; if I'd realised that you'd been around longer, I might have taken a closer look before warning you. |