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::::Mtur did not question the presence of liberal bias... Mtur is smart and knows there's no way your would budge on that.  He's saying your math is misleading. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 21:46, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::::Mtur did not question the presence of liberal bias... Mtur is smart and knows there's no way your would budge on that.  He's saying your math is misleading. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 21:46, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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:::::Perhaps the biggest lesson we can learn from this is that Aschlafly won't admit that he did poor math; he rather blames others to be liberal. He doesn't (want to) understand that you can have a wrong proof, for a correct theorem. [[User:Order]] April 5 2:00 (AEST)
    
:::: I am not doubting that Wikipedia has a liberal bias.  I am doubting that it is 6x more liberal than the United States.  I am calling into question the math that generates that number and ignores the majority of American voters.  I am calling into question what 'liberal' means to a person in another country. To compare a self selected poll to one that is done with proper statistical background is folly. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 21:49, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:::: I am not doubting that Wikipedia has a liberal bias.  I am doubting that it is 6x more liberal than the United States.  I am calling into question the math that generates that number and ignores the majority of American voters.  I am calling into question what 'liberal' means to a person in another country. To compare a self selected poll to one that is done with proper statistical background is folly. --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 21:49, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
    
:::::Bloody h***. Why won't you people admit that 3:1/1:2≈2.25? It's not "liberal math", there's no such thing, it's simply ''math''. Math is a bloody fact, not a point of view.
 
:::::Bloody h***. Why won't you people admit that 3:1/1:2≈2.25? It's not "liberal math", there's no such thing, it's simply ''math''. Math is a bloody fact, not a point of view.
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::Furthermore, "liberal bias" on Wikipedia is not defined by the number of liberals in the group, it is defined by the liberal bias of their edits. If you claim that liberals can't edit without significant bias, than you claim that conservatives can't either. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]<sup>([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]])</sup> 21:52, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
 
::Furthermore, "liberal bias" on Wikipedia is not defined by the number of liberals in the group, it is defined by the liberal bias of their edits. If you claim that liberals can't edit without significant bias, than you claim that conservatives can't either. --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]<sup>([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]])</sup> 21:52, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
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