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Debate: Was Osama really killed in Abbottabad? (view source)
Revision as of 15:55, May 13, 2011
, 15:55, May 13, 2011→NO: forgot sig and a thank you
::I have no idea why he dyes his beard, but [http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Sen-Osama-photos-pretty-graphic-1376666.php Senator Jim Inhofe] and [http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/46814/group/News/Representative Michelle Bachmann] have seen the actual photos at the CIA, agree with the decision not to release them to the public, and his beard is dyed in those photos. --[[User:MarkN85|MarkN85]] 17:03, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
::I have no idea why he dyes his beard, but [http://www.seattlepi.com/default/article/Sen-Osama-photos-pretty-graphic-1376666.php Senator Jim Inhofe] and [http://www.wday.com/event/article/id/46814/group/News/Representative Michelle Bachmann] have seen the actual photos at the CIA, agree with the decision not to release them to the public, and his beard is dyed in those photos. --[[User:MarkN85|MarkN85]] 17:03, 12 May 2011 (EDT)
::: As for the moon landing and 9/11: We got evidence of those events. Evidence that was available to the public and could thus be scrutinized by the [[best of the public]]. So far the only "evidence" the public got was the oral assurance of the Obama-administration.<br />
::: There were many valuable point made. Thank you for participating. I'll deal with them one for one. Please inform me if I forgot something.<br />
:::As for the moon landing and 9/11: We got evidence of those events. Evidence that was available to the public and could thus be scrutinized by the [[best of the public]]. So far the only "evidence" the public got was the oral assurance of the Obama-administration.<br />
:::Al-Quaeda confirming Osamas death: If Osama was killed/died years ago, or was captured alive by the SEALS, why would Al-Quaeda say so? If Osama died years ago, the Al-Quaeda would have lied to their followers, which would nit be good for them. If Osama was captured, that would be shameful for them, since he didn't die a martyr. It is advantegous for Al-Quaeda to say that Osama was killed (in action). Plus: Messages posted on the internet are not exactly the most reliable source, since they don't have to be posted by the higher up.<br />
:::Al-Quaeda confirming Osamas death: If Osama was killed/died years ago, or was captured alive by the SEALS, why would Al-Quaeda say so? If Osama died years ago, the Al-Quaeda would have lied to their followers, which would nit be good for them. If Osama was captured, that would be shameful for them, since he didn't die a martyr. It is advantegous for Al-Quaeda to say that Osama was killed (in action). Plus: Messages posted on the internet are not exactly the most reliable source, since they don't have to be posted by the higher up.<br />
:::As for Inhofe and Bachmann seeing the pictures: I think that is clearly a step in the right direction. BUT are Bachmann and Inhofe specialists in photoshop-technology? Would they be able to tell a well faked picture apart from a real one? I know I couldn't. And that's why I would like to see the pictures published, so they can be scrutinized by experts. Btw: Inhofe would also like to see at least the photos of the washed Osama published.
:::As for Inhofe and Bachmann seeing the pictures: I think that is clearly a step in the right direction. BUT are Bachmann and Inhofe specialists in photoshop-technology? Would they be able to tell a well faked picture apart from a real one? I know I couldn't. And that's why I would like to see the pictures published, so they can be scrutinized by experts. Btw: Inhofe would also like to see at least the photos of the washed Osama published.--[[User:VPropp|VPropp]] 11:55, 13 May 2011 (EDT)
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