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→‎Avoiding liberal double standard apropos Rubio: The Constitution and case law is what matters. Show them to us, Andy.
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::::Iduan states the issue well.  The real issue is whether the family subjected itself to the jurisdiction of the United States.  Visitors, diplomats, students on visas and (200 years ago) Native Americans typically do or did not.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:02, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
 
::::Iduan states the issue well.  The real issue is whether the family subjected itself to the jurisdiction of the United States.  Visitors, diplomats, students on visas and (200 years ago) Native Americans typically do or did not.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:02, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
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::::::No, but American citizens -- like, say Anne Dunham and her child, Barack Obama -- are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Where exactly in the case law or the Constitution is there a provision that BOTH parents or even the father must be "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" when ascertaining whether or not an individual is a natural-born citizen? [[User:LloydR|LloydR]] 13:10, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
    
== ".... giving him a greater claim to being a natural-born citizen than Obama has." ==
 
== ".... giving him a greater claim to being a natural-born citizen than Obama has." ==
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