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:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental].  It seems that both POVs are represented.  In usage outside those articles, wikipedia errs on the side of the people being offended.  What is the nature of your concern? [[User:Myk|Myk]] 14:43, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinaman], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental].  It seems that both POVs are represented.  In usage outside those articles, wikipedia errs on the side of the people being offended.  What is the nature of your concern? [[User:Myk|Myk]] 14:43, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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Like most Wikipedia hit-jobs, start with the first sentence "Chinaman is an outdated term that refers to a Chinese man." And it gets worse from there.  Now search for Irishman, Welshman, Dutchman, etc. and see if you can find an editorial like this posing as an article. This is an essay describing someone's feelings about why they don't like the word. This is not an encyclopedic article.
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Oh, and your second example is Wikipedia true-to-form, "The Orient is an antiquated term traditionally used in Western culture to refer to the Southwest Asia (Middle East), South Asia and East Asia."  Wrong. That's a liberal's opinion of what the word means. [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 14:50, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
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