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:God created the Universe, and therefor is not bound to it. God already knows how everything will paly out, who is saved and who isn't, because that's what he decided before he even created time.A second is like a thousand years, all that lines --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 13:13, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
 
:God created the Universe, and therefor is not bound to it. God already knows how everything will paly out, who is saved and who isn't, because that's what he decided before he even created time.A second is like a thousand years, all that lines --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 13:13, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
 
::That theory seems a bit odd, SeanS. It lays out that all our choices are already premade and if true conflicts with one of Mankinds most valuable possession from God. Free Will. We aren't governed by Fates or gods that know our choices before hand. We have a loving and watchful God that tries to make guideposts that lead back to Him, but do not force us to follow them if we choose not to. Thats why he gave the Cannainites(sp?) 400 years to try and redeem themselves before God attempted to eradicate them all though the Hebrews. Though, a look at what happened in the following years points to it not completely working. Though not a surprize, can you trust an entire army to kill every woman and child they see?
 
::That theory seems a bit odd, SeanS. It lays out that all our choices are already premade and if true conflicts with one of Mankinds most valuable possession from God. Free Will. We aren't governed by Fates or gods that know our choices before hand. We have a loving and watchful God that tries to make guideposts that lead back to Him, but do not force us to follow them if we choose not to. Thats why he gave the Cannainites(sp?) 400 years to try and redeem themselves before God attempted to eradicate them all though the Hebrews. Though, a look at what happened in the following years points to it not completely working. Though not a surprize, can you trust an entire army to kill every woman and child they see?
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:::And saying we can trump god's influence with free will is putting us above our creator. [[Predestination]] would be a good read for you. you should also try and sign your posts. Saying man cannot be destined ot something by god because of free will denies god both his throne and his omnipotence, and i didnt say there is not choice in life, but ultimately, god will call those destined to be with him to be with him.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 16:03, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
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