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:::::OK, let's get specific what we are talking about. 'Liber', the Latin root of 'Liberty' and 'Liberal', is translated from early Greek roots. However, there is no change in the meaning from Greek to Latin. The meaning is 'free', hence 'liberty' is analgous to 'freedom', and a 'liberal' can be seen to as a (1) free person, or (2) person who advocates freedom. This contrasts with 'licentiousness', i.e. having a 'license' to commit certain acts which, while not always necessarily illegal under civil law, can be argueed to be morally harmful. In other words, a person who makes the wrong choices is free to engage in licentiousness. This person, however, does not fit the definition of a person who is (1) free, (2) an advocate of freedom. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:58, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
:::::OK, let's get specific what we are talking about. 'Liber', the Latin root of 'Liberty' and 'Liberal', is translated from early Greek roots. However, there is no change in the meaning from Greek to Latin. The meaning is 'free', hence 'liberty' is analgous to 'freedom', and a 'liberal' can be seen to as a (1) free person, or (2) person who advocates freedom. This contrasts with 'licentiousness', i.e. having a 'license' to commit certain acts which, while not always necessarily illegal under civil law, can be argueed to be morally harmful. In other words, a person who makes the wrong choices is free to engage in licentiousness. This person, however, does not fit the definition of a person who is (1) free, (2) an advocate of freedom. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 16:58, 5 April 2007 (EDT)
(outdent) There are several questions here.
# What is the reason to include this passage in the article? A number of other translations of the Bible do not use the word 'liberty'?
# What is the root of the word Liberty? I can trace it back to liber and Liber - a Roman fertility god. Whatever the case, what does that have to do with the modern meaning of the word 'liberal'?
# The passage about "licentiousness" - is this more a commentary on the 1 Peter passage? or is it trying to claim the point of view that those who advocate personal freedom in all forms are licentious (which is about morals - not freedom)?
--[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 17:07, 5 April 2007 (EDT)