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::::The problem is that it is all important, so translating the word merely as "this is important" is no better than simply ignoring the word altogether.  And ignoring words is not a favored approach to translation, or interpretation either.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:42, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
 
::::The problem is that it is all important, so translating the word merely as "this is important" is no better than simply ignoring the word altogether.  And ignoring words is not a favored approach to translation, or interpretation either.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:42, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
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:::::If ''ignoring words is not a favored approach to translation'', why are you always omitting the first word (καί) of the verse?
   
:::::"this is important" is something else than "at this moment". You are taking liberties in the same way as the modern liberal translations do.
 
:::::"this is important" is something else than "at this moment". You are taking liberties in the same way as the modern liberal translations do.
 
:::::I agree with MHarris that "behold" is an adequate translation of ἰδού, IMO possibly the best one. It shows how words were stressed before punctuation (and text-formatting) was common place.  
 
:::::I agree with MHarris that "behold" is an adequate translation of ἰδού, IMO possibly the best one. It shows how words were stressed before punctuation (and text-formatting) was common place.  
 
:::::I didn't propose "wow" as a translation of ἰδού, I just wanted to illustrate that both words fulfilled the same function in speech.
 
:::::I didn't propose "wow" as a translation of ἰδού, I just wanted to illustrate that both words fulfilled the same function in speech.
 
:::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:12, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
 
:::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:12, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
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