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:Thank you for that constructive criticism. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 21:27, 14 August 2010 (EDT)
:Thank you for that constructive criticism. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 21:27, 14 August 2010 (EDT)
::Itsafineday, "an atheist could argue". That's a good one. I see you have a sense of humor. We all know that prominent atheists/evolutionists are afraid to debate [[creation science|creation scientists]] (after losing debates to them in the 1970s) and that [[Richard Dawkins]] is afraid to debate Dr. [[William Lane Craig]], Rabbi Boteach (a second time after losing the first debate and denying the videotaped debate took place) and Dinesh D'Souza (see: [[Atheism and Debate]] and [[Daniel Came]]). In addition, [[PZ Myers]] refuses to debate [[Vox Day]]. When is atheism going to evolve a spine? [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 17:28, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::Itsafineday, "an atheist could argue". That's a good one. I see you have a sense of humor. We all know that prominent atheists/evolutionists are afraid to debate [[creation science|creation scientists]] (after losing debates to them in the 1970s) and that [[Richard Dawkins]] is afraid to debate Dr. [[William Lane Craig]], Rabbi Boteach (a second time after losing the first debate and denying the videotaped debate took place) and Dinesh D'Souza (see: [[Atheism and Debate]] and [[Daniel Came]]). In addition, [[PZ Myers]] refuses to debate [[Vox Day]]. When is atheism going to evolve a spine? [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 17:28, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::"''For example, in the telelogical argument, an atheist could argue that the watch has evolved throughout time..."'' not only that, but one could argue that one would only think the watch was created if they have seen other objects ''known'' to be created by humans to compare it to. And that complexity has nothing to do with creation. Is God not complex? Wouldn't that mean he was created according to that logic?--[[User:Jasonb242|Jasonb242]] 14:41, 18 June 2011 (EDT)