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::::::::ok, my great-grandfather lived to be 106 years old without ever eating dog food or cashing a Social Security check. Several members of Congress claim their elder constituents, after a lifetime of learning and experience, must eat dog food ''if they don't'' collect and cash Social Security checks. Could this be quantifiable standard to extrapolate backwards a measurement of human intelligence?  After all, it not only measures whether or not the species is less intelligent than a generation ago, it could reveal if an individual person gets more stupid with longevity, too.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:06, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

::::::::ok, my great-grandfather lived to be 106 years old without ever eating dog food or cashing a Social Security check. Several members of Congress claim their elder constituents, after a lifetime of learning and experience, must eat dog food ''if they don't'' collect and cash Social Security checks. Could this be quantifiable standard to extrapolate backwards a measurement of human intelligence?  After all, it not only measures whether or not the species is less intelligent than a generation ago, it could reveal if an individual person gets more stupid with longevity, too.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:06, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Rob, what you presented was a ''qualitative'' (not quantitative) anecdotal (i.e. single example) piece of evidence. Also, I don't see how eating dog food is a sign of lack of intelligence if the alternative for these elders is to starve, that is a very sad state of affairs. --[[User:Mike127|Mike127]] 12:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

:::::::::Rob, what you presented was a ''qualitative'' (not quantitative) anecdotal (i.e. single example) piece of evidence. Also, I don't see how eating dog food is a sign of lack of intelligence if the alternative for these elders is to starve, that is a very sad state of affairs. --[[User:Mike127|Mike127]] 12:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

   

::::::::::It could be quantitative if the phenomenea becomes widespread, as has been alleged by several members of Congress. Getting stupider as one gets older is indeed a sad state of afffairs, especially if it becomes wiespread as is apparent. Take for example the Parable of Ten Virgins ([http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25&version=KJV Mathew 25]) or wise King Solomon's admonition, "A good man leaves an in heritance to his children", ([http://bible.cc/proverbs/13-22.htm Proverbs 13:22]). How many people today choose to ignore the inherited wisedom passed down through the ages that simply says, "prepare for the future", and choose rather to squander their resources on riotous living? [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:17, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

 

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Andy, the reason you stated as to why you protected this article is because of edits to remove one counter example (the decreasing intelligence argument), and that you have refuted the criticisms to this counter example. However, you merely rested the counter example several times on this talk page and offered nothing new to support it, and it was other members of this community, myself included, that provided new information and new perspectives and new analyses that refute the inclusion of this counter example in the article. It is unfortunate that we can no longer add to this page because you are intent on keeping this one counter example, no matter how erroneous it is or how bad it makes the other more intelligent counter examples look. '''The unfortunate thing is that this isn't even a liberal vs. conservative issue, it's an issue about math.''' I suppose that I and others should stop talking about this issue on this page now, as to avoid the 90/10 rule, but when editing is reopened for this article, be sure that it will either be I, the other contributors here, or new contributors that will once again highlight the problems with this counter example and this cycle will begin again.--[[User:Mike127|Mike127]] 01:38, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

Andy, the reason you stated as to why you protected this article is because of edits to remove one counter example (the decreasing intelligence argument), and that you have refuted the criticisms to this counter example. However, you merely rested the counter example several times on this talk page and offered nothing new to support it, and it was other members of this community, myself included, that provided new information and new perspectives and new analyses that refute the inclusion of this counter example in the article. It is unfortunate that we can no longer add to this page because you are intent on keeping this one counter example, no matter how erroneous it is or how bad it makes the other more intelligent counter examples look. '''The unfortunate thing is that this isn't even a liberal vs. conservative issue, it's an issue about math.''' I suppose that I and others should stop talking about this issue on this page now, as to avoid the 90/10 rule, but when editing is reopened for this article, be sure that it will either be I, the other contributors here, or new contributors that will once again highlight the problems with this counter example and this cycle will begin again.--[[User:Mike127|Mike127]] 01:38, 18 June 2011 (EDT)