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Debate: Is it possible for God to be timeless? (view source)
Revision as of 15:34, June 24, 2011
, 15:34, June 24, 2011→Yes
::That theory seems a bit odd, SeanS. It lays out that all our choices are already premade and if true conflicts with one of Mankinds most valuable possession from God. Free Will. We aren't governed by Fates or gods that know our choices before hand. We have a loving and watchful God that tries to make guideposts that lead back to Him, but do not force us to follow them if we choose not to. Thats why he gave the Cannainites(sp?) 400 years to try and redeem themselves before God attempted to eradicate them all though the Hebrews. Though, a look at what happened in the following years points to it not completely working. Though not a surprize, can you trust an entire army to kill every woman and child they see?
::That theory seems a bit odd, SeanS. It lays out that all our choices are already premade and if true conflicts with one of Mankinds most valuable possession from God. Free Will. We aren't governed by Fates or gods that know our choices before hand. We have a loving and watchful God that tries to make guideposts that lead back to Him, but do not force us to follow them if we choose not to. Thats why he gave the Cannainites(sp?) 400 years to try and redeem themselves before God attempted to eradicate them all though the Hebrews. Though, a look at what happened in the following years points to it not completely working. Though not a surprize, can you trust an entire army to kill every woman and child they see?
:::And saying we can trump god's influence with free will is putting us above our creator. [[Predestination]] would be a good read for you. you should also try and sign your posts. Saying man cannot be destined ot something by god because of free will denies god both his throne and his omnipotence, and i didnt say there is not choice in life, but ultimately, god will call those destined to be with him to be with him.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 16:03, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
:::And saying we can trump god's influence with free will is putting us above our creator. [[Predestination]] would be a good read for you. you should also try and sign your posts. Saying man cannot be destined ot something by god because of free will denies god both his throne and his omnipotence, and i didnt say there is not choice in life, but ultimately, god will call those destined to be with him to be with him.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 16:03, 3 June 2011 (EDT)
According to Einstein, who believed in God, we live within a created space/time continuum. According to Jesus, "Before Abraham was, I AM". An "Eternal Creator" has always existed; as such, an Eternal Creator may have always created. Our concept of "time" is a created dimension, rather than true reality from God's view. Since we are trapped within a universal space/time continuum, we cannot conceive of eternity or all that eternity implies. Our own reality in no way proves there is no such thing as an Eternal being, any more than the reality of a microbe living inside of our intestines, proves there is no such thing as a human being. Eternal Creator(s) satisfies origins and rationally explains the observable universal reality. There is no other concept known to humanity that rationally explains the observable reality, other than Eternal Creator(s). What human beings call "science" historically, has long been the BEST explanation until proven otherwise. Thus, Eternal Creator(s) remains the ultimate correct postulate of science until proven otherwise, as it remains both the BEST and ONLY rational explanation known for the observable universal reality. If there is no Eternal Creator(s), then there is no rational explanation for anything and thus, there is no science or reason.
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