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"''...that is just as unsatisfying as saying that god created everything. A more serious, but not less unsatisfying answer might actually be that it is impossible for 'nothing' to exist. All attempts to define or describe nothing lead us to something.''".  On the contrary, I find the idea that attempts to define/describe nothing fail as unconvincing, partly because the problem is likely that not being familiar with "nothing" simply makes it difficult for us to comprehend.  But as far as definitions go, how about "nothing is the absence of anything".  Furthermore, saying that "God created everything" is unsatisfying is merely an assertion that is not self-evident.  I find it quite satisfying.  What is so unsatisfying about it?  I mean, if "unsatisfying" is the strongest argument that can be raised against God creating, there is no argument.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:55, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
 
"''...that is just as unsatisfying as saying that god created everything. A more serious, but not less unsatisfying answer might actually be that it is impossible for 'nothing' to exist. All attempts to define or describe nothing lead us to something.''".  On the contrary, I find the idea that attempts to define/describe nothing fail as unconvincing, partly because the problem is likely that not being familiar with "nothing" simply makes it difficult for us to comprehend.  But as far as definitions go, how about "nothing is the absence of anything".  Furthermore, saying that "God created everything" is unsatisfying is merely an assertion that is not self-evident.  I find it quite satisfying.  What is so unsatisfying about it?  I mean, if "unsatisfying" is the strongest argument that can be raised against God creating, there is no argument.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:55, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
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:A complex set of deeply implicit presupositions are within any personal perception of the 'unsatisfactoriness' of a philosophical position, such that 'unsatisfactory' is an overall description of the 'subjective' result. The problem, of course, is whether a given set of presuppositions is coherent. Many are not, but which are perceived as coherent by their vaguely understood results in their contrast to their favorite straw men.[[User:PatternOfPersona|PatternOfPersona]] 21:02, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
     
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