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:We may have to have a discussion on [[Checkuser]] and the proper way to identify sockpuppetry. I klnow my own user account comes up from Geolocate and Traceroute as coming form Dallas or Phoenix when I'm in Albuquerque. And it's usually when I'm editing at McDonalds's which uses Wayport or something. I don't know how reliable any of this information is, or whether CP sysops have been interpreting the data correctly.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 13:33, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

:We may have to have a discussion on [[Checkuser]] and the proper way to identify sockpuppetry. I klnow my own user account comes up from Geolocate and Traceroute as coming form Dallas or Phoenix when I'm in Albuquerque. And it's usually when I'm editing at McDonalds's which uses Wayport or something. I don't know how reliable any of this information is, or whether CP sysops have been interpreting the data correctly.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 13:33, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

::I RARELY have seen a permanent block handed out that didn't block the user's IP address (unless it was for username, in which case the user is perfectly allowed, in fact, told, to create a new account); so generally in order for the "sock of blocked user" item to be used, an admin would have to determine that the user was a sock without using checkuser, which is certainly an inexact science and an unfair requirement of admins. I don't think there's any downside to removing it from the list. But I agree that perhaps a Checkuser conversation needs to happen.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 15:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

::I RARELY have seen a permanent block handed out that didn't block the user's IP address (unless it was for username, in which case the user is perfectly allowed, in fact, told, to create a new account); so generally in order for the "sock of blocked user" item to be used, an admin would have to determine that the user was a sock without using checkuser, which is certainly an inexact science and an unfair requirement of admins. I don't think there's any downside to removing it from the list. But I agree that perhaps a Checkuser conversation needs to happen.--<small>[[User:Iduan|<span style="color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000">I]][[User_talk:Iduan|<span style="color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033">Duan]]</span></span></small> 15:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)