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| | :::::::::Jab512, the evidence is that of an ocean basin. That's the starting point for any objective analysis. No river has ever been known to carve a shape like an ocean basin; but many have been formed by being submerged completely in water.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:47, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | | :::::::::Jab512, the evidence is that of an ocean basin. That's the starting point for any objective analysis. No river has ever been known to carve a shape like an ocean basin; but many have been formed by being submerged completely in water.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:47, 12 August 2011 (EDT) |
| | ::::::::::How is that the starting point for any objective analysis? There is no conclusion in a starting point of an objective analysis. That's why it's objective. But i digress."''No river has ever been known to carve a shape like an ocean basin''" and you know this how? Please provide evidence to back up this statement. You say the GC is consistent in shape with an ocean basin? How do you think those are formed? Wouldn't happen to be erosion over time would it?--[[User:Jab512|Jab512]] 23:52, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | | ::::::::::How is that the starting point for any objective analysis? There is no conclusion in a starting point of an objective analysis. That's why it's objective. But i digress."''No river has ever been known to carve a shape like an ocean basin''" and you know this how? Please provide evidence to back up this statement. You say the GC is consistent in shape with an ocean basin? How do you think those are formed? Wouldn't happen to be erosion over time would it?--[[User:Jab512|Jab512]] 23:52, 12 August 2011 (EDT) |
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| | ::::::::::: No, the [[Grand Canyon]] is not the shape of a slowly eroded valley. It's the shape of a suddenly collapsed ocean floor.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:28, 13 August 2011 (EDT) | | ::::::::::: No, the [[Grand Canyon]] is not the shape of a slowly eroded valley. It's the shape of a suddenly collapsed ocean floor.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:28, 13 August 2011 (EDT) |
| | What other "suddenly collapsed ocean floor" are you comparing it to? How can you say that it is the same shape as something that has never happened before this instance, if that really was how it was formed? --[[User:Jab512|Jab512]] 22:14, 13 August 2011 (EDT) | | What other "suddenly collapsed ocean floor" are you comparing it to? How can you say that it is the same shape as something that has never happened before this instance, if that really was how it was formed? --[[User:Jab512|Jab512]] 22:14, 13 August 2011 (EDT) |
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| | :There are many examples of "ocean basin" explained on the internet ... and ocean basins look like the [[Grand Canyon]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:19, 13 August 2011 (EDT) | | :There are many examples of "ocean basin" explained on the internet ... and ocean basins look like the [[Grand Canyon]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:19, 13 August 2011 (EDT) |
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| | ::The Mariana Trench would be a good example.[[User:Aortuso|Aortuso]] 23:23, 13 August 2011 (EDT) | | ::The Mariana Trench would be a good example.[[User:Aortuso|Aortuso]] 23:23, 13 August 2011 (EDT) |
| | + | :::Any ocean basins created by a massive force all at once? And the Mariana Trench is where two tectonic plates meet, not the product of a massive force or erosion, therefore the comparison is irrelevant. Not that it was really that similar in shape anyways--[[User:Jab512|Jab512]] 23:37, 13 August 2011 (EDT) |