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Talk:Counterexamples to an Old Earth (view source)
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, 01:37, August 27, 2011→The variability of the speed of light as a counterexample to relativity requires a 2-billion-year-old universe
::::In addition to Jcw's insightful observation, note that the "2 billion year" figure is just a way of saying 1/6th the age of the universe. It doesn't mean anything more than that. A careful, objective scientist would express time in the distant past as a fraction of the universe's age, rather than speculating about the number of years.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:23, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
::::In addition to Jcw's insightful observation, note that the "2 billion year" figure is just a way of saying 1/6th the age of the universe. It doesn't mean anything more than that. A careful, objective scientist would express time in the distant past as a fraction of the universe's age, rather than speculating about the number of years.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:23, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::They're not speculating; they're working from hard data that, WITHIN THEIR MODEL, gives a reliable answer. All stars are fusing hydrogen into helium, therefore they emit light at what's called the Hydrogen-Alpha line. This has a known frequency. The deviation of the observed line from this frequency gives a redshift, therefore a distance, therefore an age. There is no speculation involved. Obviously they're leaving out a few minor but significant details that we know from Genesis, but they really are working in actual years rather than fractions of the age of the universe. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:37, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Edit conflict: JCW, I'm not sure why you keep mentioning evolution. The theory of evolution has nothing to say about the speed of light. You do understand that the theory of evolution is about biology and not astrophysics, right?--[[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 21:26, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Edit conflict: JCW, I'm not sure why you keep mentioning evolution. The theory of evolution has nothing to say about the speed of light. You do understand that the theory of evolution is about biology and not astrophysics, right?--[[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 21:26, 26 August 2011 (EDT)