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They were both born in the United States. How are they not American? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 20:04, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
 
They were both born in the United States. How are they not American? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 20:04, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:Slaves were not citizens. They were slaves born before the 14th amendment was ratified --[[User:StevenG|StevenG]] 20:08, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:Slaves were not citizens. They were slaves born before the 14th amendment was ratified --[[User:StevenG|StevenG]] 20:08, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
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::And? IF your going to argue that disqualifies them, be prepared to be called a racist for doing so.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 20:10, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
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::And? IF your going to argue that disqualifies them, be prepared to be called a racist for doing so. Oh and the founding fathers were British subjects before the revolution, and were only made American citizens when the constitution got made. By your logic, they must not be Americans either--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 20:10, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
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