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Giuliani is a Republican but as for social conservative issues, he is too liberal. He might be the Presidential nominee of our party. I kept asking myself, how could I vote for somebody pro-abortion and pro-gay rights? Then I heard a unique viewpoint I thought I should share. If we do not elect a President strong on defense, strong on national security and strong on foreign policy, there might not be an America left to have abortions. I certainly want my child to grow up in a safe secure America. Giuliani is strong on defense, strong on national security and strong on foreign policy. In a time of war, this nation cannot afford to take chances with a Democrat President.
 
Giuliani is a Republican but as for social conservative issues, he is too liberal. He might be the Presidential nominee of our party. I kept asking myself, how could I vote for somebody pro-abortion and pro-gay rights? Then I heard a unique viewpoint I thought I should share. If we do not elect a President strong on defense, strong on national security and strong on foreign policy, there might not be an America left to have abortions. I certainly want my child to grow up in a safe secure America. Giuliani is strong on defense, strong on national security and strong on foreign policy. In a time of war, this nation cannot afford to take chances with a Democrat President.
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Kerik was a major mistake and it is an example of how Giuliani will operate, he's careless, he's not a competent leader. As for firefighters, there are about 1 million firefighters in the US out of which 250,000 are full time the rest are volunteers the International Association of Fire Fighters has over 280,000 members, they are the major voice for firefighters and they do not support Guiliani, firefighters do not love the guy, not even when he's out on the town wearing a dress and high heels, he is not Presidential material. I agree that staying on the attack against terror is a good strategy but it is not the only method. To suggest that is the sole reason there has been no attacks in the US is ridiculous, by that rational you could claim that after the first attack on the trade center in 1993 that Clinton's plans/policy kept the US safe for 2000+ days too. Giuliani needs to do more than come up with sound bites about how he'll "stay on the attack" policy is more complicated than that.--[[User:Eljoe2|Eljoe2]] 02:10, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 
Kerik was a major mistake and it is an example of how Giuliani will operate, he's careless, he's not a competent leader. As for firefighters, there are about 1 million firefighters in the US out of which 250,000 are full time the rest are volunteers the International Association of Fire Fighters has over 280,000 members, they are the major voice for firefighters and they do not support Guiliani, firefighters do not love the guy, not even when he's out on the town wearing a dress and high heels, he is not Presidential material. I agree that staying on the attack against terror is a good strategy but it is not the only method. To suggest that is the sole reason there has been no attacks in the US is ridiculous, by that rational you could claim that after the first attack on the trade center in 1993 that Clinton's plans/policy kept the US safe for 2000+ days too. Giuliani needs to do more than come up with sound bites about how he'll "stay on the attack" policy is more complicated than that.--[[User:Eljoe2|Eljoe2]] 02:10, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
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: Eljoe, I realize you are dead against Giuliani, so what, if he's the nomine, vote Clinton, what do i care. You are wrong is how I see it. I guess you speak for all the firefighters, even NYC ones that post good things about him on joinrudy.com Do I trust the firefighters union? They were the first union in America to give their backing to Kerry 'o4. Like I said, kerik is a non issue but to you only. Keep taring the man down, maybe will have a better nominee, like your fav senior citizen McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:30, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
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: Eljoe, I realize you are dead against Giuliani, so what, if he's the nominee, vote Clinton, what do I care. You are wrong is how I see it. I guess you speak for all the firefighters, even NYC ones that post good things about him on joinrudy.com Do I trust the firefighters union? They were the first union in America to give their backing to Kerry 'o4. Like I said, kerik is a non issue but except to you only. Keep tearing the man down, maybe we will have a better nominee, like your fav senior citizen McCain.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 14:30, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
    
I would consider voting third party to send the Republican Party a message that they can't just nominate any old fool and expect me to vote lockstep for them. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 02:11, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
 
I would consider voting third party to send the Republican Party a message that they can't just nominate any old fool and expect me to vote lockstep for them. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 02:11, 7 April 2007 (EDT)
    
: Hey Dew, that's exactly the kind of thought process I am trying to prevent. Here is what your actions will dew. By sending a message to Republicans that you don't like it's leaders social positions, you are giving the Presidency to Hillary. Not only will she defend abortion rights, she will load the judicial system with pro-abortion supporters. On top of that, we will go back in time whereby we ignore terror and slash the military. We become laughingstock national security without a strong leader. The message you are sending is- come defeat America, the time is right. I guess your actions will have the desired affect- end abortions. Because nobody will be getting abortions during nuclear war!
 
: Hey Dew, that's exactly the kind of thought process I am trying to prevent. Here is what your actions will dew. By sending a message to Republicans that you don't like it's leaders social positions, you are giving the Presidency to Hillary. Not only will she defend abortion rights, she will load the judicial system with pro-abortion supporters. On top of that, we will go back in time whereby we ignore terror and slash the military. We become laughingstock national security without a strong leader. The message you are sending is- come defeat America, the time is right. I guess your actions will have the desired affect- end abortions. Because nobody will be getting abortions during nuclear war!
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