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: It's implausible that spiral galaxies would be much younger than the universe itself.  The fact that spiral galaxies are young implies that the universe is young.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:59, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
 
: It's implausible that spiral galaxies would be much younger than the universe itself.  The fact that spiral galaxies are young implies that the universe is young.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:59, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
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::WHY is it implausible that spiral galaxies would be much younger than the universe? Astronomers don't seem to think so and they have an explanation for why spiral galaxies are younger than elliptical ones. I really don't see the point of arguing against a claim that the other side isn't making. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 11:51, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
    
== The variability of the speed of light as a counterexample to relativity requires a 2-billion-year-old universe ==
 
== The variability of the speed of light as a counterexample to relativity requires a 2-billion-year-old universe ==
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