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As a Catholic, I hope people realize that the Catholic Church was involved in the matter. The Catholic Church is home to one of the most conservative Christian organizations in the US, the Knights of Columbus (1.8 million members), mind you. I do hope that we can at least acknowledge that this isn't an "atheist" view or a "liberal" view, but one that spreads across boundaries. :)  After all, the Catholic Church's view about Genesis is based on St. Augustine's determination that Genesis was allegorical, which was something both Martin Luther and John Calvin agreed with. Just keep this in mind. :) [[User:Ottava|Ottava]] ([[user talk:Ottava|talk]]) 18:56, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
 
As a Catholic, I hope people realize that the Catholic Church was involved in the matter. The Catholic Church is home to one of the most conservative Christian organizations in the US, the Knights of Columbus (1.8 million members), mind you. I do hope that we can at least acknowledge that this isn't an "atheist" view or a "liberal" view, but one that spreads across boundaries. :)  After all, the Catholic Church's view about Genesis is based on St. Augustine's determination that Genesis was allegorical, which was something both Martin Luther and John Calvin agreed with. Just keep this in mind. :) [[User:Ottava|Ottava]] ([[user talk:Ottava|talk]]) 18:56, 14 September 2011 (EDT)
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:In what sense ''"the Catholic Church was involved in the matter"''? The fact that ''"Martin Luther and John Calvin agreed (that Genesis was allegorical)"'' isn't a clear indication that ''"the Catholic Church was involved in the matter"''. At least to me (the creank :) that's why I'd appreciate if you explained it in more detail.
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:My opinion is the same as yours about the involvement of the Church but I'm not sure that I understand it the same way as you do. I know that Gorges Lemaître, the Catholic prist, proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory<ref>
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After wikipedia.
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</ref>, and also that the theory is false since I personally executed the for long time neglected calculation of value of [[intrinsic redshift]] and it turned out roughly as it is observed, which implies that practically there is no expansion of universe. Results of my calculations were not published since 1985 when they were done, except recently in conservapedia<ref>
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[[Essay: Hubble redshift in Einstein's universe]].
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</ref>, but I don't think that the Catholic Church was involved in the matter of blocking the publication. Do you? :) [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 14:08, 15 September 2011 (EDT)
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==Reference==
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