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Line 34: − − I tried to edit the introductory section that should have defined what censorship is but did not. I cannot get into it. Therefore, I’ll attempt to define "censorship" in this section. − In the United States there are many definitions of “censorship” but they all have the following characteristics in common: 1) action to stop or hinder others from gaining access to a written, graphic, video or oral source of material, 2) the person or people taking the action have logical, rational and/or emotional reasons for blocking access such as one or more of the following bases: morality, age appropriateness, national security and protection, invasion of privacy and libel or scandalous material and 3) the person or people either have legitimate power [government (legislative, judiciary or executive)], legal recourse by group/groups or assertions with the power of numbers (i.e., parental groups) or use other bases of power (i.e., referent, expert authority, etc.). − − In America, censorship has been a relatively innocuous issue. Historically, the term has been reserved for the practice of officially examining books, literature, movies, art, video games, etc. with the intention of suppressing unacceptable parts deemed unacceptable by a group on the basis of a standard of morality, a religious belief or standard of violence...typically on the basis of age inappropriateness. It has not reached the depths of that’s its reached in other countries. It has had few political overtones. − − The American news media (print and television) have had periods of controversy and have had accusations of liberal bias leveled against it by conservative political groups including the Republican Party. This has never escalated to accusations of censorship. Recently, accusations of political bias have been heard in the opposite direction: with a few liberal political groups suggesting that the news media provides a narrow vacuous source of useless type of political news... “the Republicans said, the Democrats said” type of news…offering no commentary nor analyses. If there is a bias, neither party is crying foul. Again there has been nothing approaching accusations of censorship. However, the “alternative news media” on the Internet especially those that use legitimate news standards of analyses, have grown in number and size. All operating within the current political climate of polarity. − − The term “censorship” has been used in other countries, in other time frames and in other contexts: South and Central American dictatorships censor newspapers/airways, China’s communist dictatorship censor political demonstration and dissent and Hitler censored all but Nazi propaganda in Germany. [[User:PMiller|PMiller]] 04:32, 15 September 2011 (CST) Line 65:
Line 56: − − I'm wondering if some of the writers are aware that an Encyclopedia must adhere to standards...fact-based support from reputable sources and/or well articulated argument of logic. There are excellent conservative arguments (well articulated, supported by principles, etc....i.e., Standards) to discuss school prayer but simply asserting that it has been censored is not acceptable. When a writer asserts, s/he is using opinion and opinion is not ever the basis for arguing for a position. If a writer cannot find support for his/her opinion, please do not use it and do not write it. Please refer to my definition of Censorship under "What Censorship is Not". --[[User:PMiller|PMiller]] 04:54, 15 September 2011 (CST) Line 98:
Line 87: − The individual teacher is only following the law/Supreme Court/ U.S.Constitution. It cannot be called censorship because the teacher is not acting on her free will. The First Amendment of the U. S. Constitution states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof has....". Prayer is not permitted in public schools because that was the founding fathers intention to keep the church and state separate. --[[User: PMurdock|PMurdock]] 05:01, 14 September 2011 (CST) Line 118:
Line 106: − − Dollfuss brought up an excellent points that are so obvious that it slipped by everyone. Censorship is NOT solely a liberal trait otherwise there wouldn't be such rancor over including differences of opinion on Conservapedia. We must keep in mind that absolutely nothing on this site should be "opinion-based". Isn't "censorship" − − Censorship is not simply a condemnation of a different opinions, is it? I do not think soAt the heart of any intellectual, open discussion is DIALOGUE. I'm concerned with a prevalent attitude on Conservapedia that rushes to judgment especially about the liberal point of view. The liberal point of view is NOT the enemy: it's a legitimate perspective (i.e., a large percentage of the population have it) and it deserves a fair hearing. fair presentation of its perspectives/views. Would we not expect the same? I haven't read much on this site but what I have read begins to give the impression that this is not an open forum of DIALOGUE. It's beginning to sound like war: as if one side is all wrong and the other is all correct. Somewhere between the two extremes is the Truth. Better yet...somewhere between the two extremes will be found commonality and perhaps the political polarity will be resolved. --[[PMurdock]] 05:01, 14 September 2011 (CST)
Reverted edits by Prof4ever (talk) to last revision by Dollfuss
Will somebody please be a dear and redo this article [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 06:34, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Will somebody please be a dear and redo this article [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 06:34, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
== Rewritten intro ==
== Rewritten intro ==
:Even if you are an original thinker with much to share, I adjure you to work harmoniously here by adhering to our rules and customs. Be sure to avoid edit wars, particularly with sysops. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 10:27, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
:Even if you are an original thinker with much to share, I adjure you to work harmoniously here by adhering to our rules and customs. Be sure to avoid edit wars, particularly with sysops. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 10:27, 25 April 2008 (EDT)
== The more recent examples ==
== The more recent examples ==
::Thanks for the prompt response. Your definition is interesting. I wonder about some aspects, however. For example, point 2 seems too broad to be meaningful. What does "removal of information" mean in the context of prayer? Surely censorship requires the prevention of information passing from one person to another. That is at the heart of my comment above. Prayer, as I understand it, is between an individual and the Almighty. I do not see how any human authority could prevent such communication. Further, refusing to allow classroom prayer does not stop anyone diseminating Christian (or other religious) ideas at school. Free discussion is still allowed (so far as I am aware). It seems to me to be a doubtful example at best. Do the cases that you refer to throw any light on the issue? I have not had the pleasure of reading them. --[[User:TCochrane|TCochrane]] 18:14, 26 December 2008 (EST)
::Thanks for the prompt response. Your definition is interesting. I wonder about some aspects, however. For example, point 2 seems too broad to be meaningful. What does "removal of information" mean in the context of prayer? Surely censorship requires the prevention of information passing from one person to another. That is at the heart of my comment above. Prayer, as I understand it, is between an individual and the Almighty. I do not see how any human authority could prevent such communication. Further, refusing to allow classroom prayer does not stop anyone diseminating Christian (or other religious) ideas at school. Free discussion is still allowed (so far as I am aware). It seems to me to be a doubtful example at best. Do the cases that you refer to throw any light on the issue? I have not had the pleasure of reading them. --[[User:TCochrane|TCochrane]] 18:14, 26 December 2008 (EST)
== made some edits ==
== made some edits ==
I'm honestly not 'trolling' or trying to insult anything or anyone here... I want to be respectful. But isn't it a contradiction to say that censorship is a liberal trait, when this website itself censors edits and talk pages? Please don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to cause offence, just wondering. -- Dollfuss.
I'm honestly not 'trolling' or trying to insult anything or anyone here... I want to be respectful. But isn't it a contradiction to say that censorship is a liberal trait, when this website itself censors edits and talk pages? Please don't misunderstand, I'm not trying to cause offence, just wondering. -- Dollfuss.