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::::::::You may ask your friends physicists who believe that the big bang is not a fake whether they know what is the [[intrinsic redshift]] in our universe. The possible answers are (i) "don't know", (ii) "negligible, I guess", (iii) "depending on density of universe, but I don't know how", (iv) "ca. 72km/s/Mpc".  
 
::::::::You may ask your friends physicists who believe that the big bang is not a fake whether they know what is the [[intrinsic redshift]] in our universe. The possible answers are (i) "don't know", (ii) "negligible, I guess", (iii) "depending on density of universe, but I don't know how", (iv) "ca. 72km/s/Mpc".  
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:::::::::Redshift isn't measured in km/s/Mpc; it's measured in terms of z, or occasionally in terms of shifted frequency. You don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you? --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 20:30, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
    
::::::::I calculated this [[intrinsic redshift]] with very simple, easy to repeate for an intelligent high school student calculation, and the last answer is true. It means that there is no expansion of the universe since it is the redshift that astrophysicists observe but can't calculate since they don't know how. There is no such calculation in the whole scientific literature. The BBH theorists assume answer (ii) ("negligible"). Why, if I calculated it and got 72km/s/Mpc, which incidentally the Hubble redshift is observed as such?  
 
::::::::I calculated this [[intrinsic redshift]] with very simple, easy to repeate for an intelligent high school student calculation, and the last answer is true. It means that there is no expansion of the universe since it is the redshift that astrophysicists observe but can't calculate since they don't know how. There is no such calculation in the whole scientific literature. The BBH theorists assume answer (ii) ("negligible"). Why, if I calculated it and got 72km/s/Mpc, which incidentally the Hubble redshift is observed as such?  
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