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Revision as of 17:48, September 18, 2011
, 17:48, September 18, 2011→Religious views of Charles Darwin
* In his autobiography, Darwin wrote – “The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.” [http://www.darwinthenandnow.com/2010/04/darwin-an-agnostic/] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 23:15, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
* In his autobiography, Darwin wrote – “The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us; and I for one must be content to remain an agnostic.” [http://www.darwinthenandnow.com/2010/04/darwin-an-agnostic/] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 23:15, 17 September 2011 (EDT)
:That is not our modern definition of "agnostic". Agnostic, at the time, was known to him as the Greek word for "ignorant" or "not knowing". An "agnostic" in the modern sense means something very different, just as atheist before the modern period meant "person who was a heretic to the standard faith" as opposed to "believing in no faiths". Furthermore, it is clear that he says he had doubts as to the proof of various aspects of religion, which is no real different from what Augustine and many others described (even Mother Theresa claimed that she had doubts until the end). Faith is not about knowing, after all. He goes through arguments based on "proof", and then ends up saying that he can't possibly know what the origin was. But he does not say that religion is wrong but that people could possibly be faulty. That is twisted around to say something far different than what Darwin said. [[User:Ottava|Ottava]] ([[user talk:Ottava|talk]]) 00:41, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
:That is not our modern definition of "agnostic". Agnostic, at the time, was known to him as the Greek word for "ignorant" or "not knowing". An "agnostic" in the modern sense means something very different, just as atheist before the modern period meant "person who was a heretic to the standard faith" as opposed to "believing in no faiths". Furthermore, it is clear that he says he had doubts as to the proof of various aspects of religion, which is no real different from what Augustine and many others described (even Mother Theresa claimed that she had doubts until the end). Faith is not about knowing, after all. He goes through arguments based on "proof", and then ends up saying that he can't possibly know what the origin was. But he does not say that religion is wrong but that people could possibly be faulty. That is twisted around to say something far different than what Darwin said. [[User:Ottava|Ottava]] ([[user talk:Ottava|talk]]) 00:41, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
==Forgiveness + km/s/Mpc + Holy Ghost's work==
Sam, Yes I do have an idea what I'm talking about since I studied astronomy at University of Warsaw, Poland (Country of Copernicus, remember the guy? Also an unconventional fellow) since 2004 (in case you insist on verifying it). I still remember some definitions. Even if your mom didn't teach you that it is not nice to butt in with your own opinion (especially with a false one) when grownups talk, I forgive you, and hope that Ottava, being a Catholic and therefore a Christian, forgives you as well, even if you tried to confuse her in the matter of units used in astronomy.
So clearing this point, and now outside the conversation with Ottava, who might have given up on talking to me whom she considers a lier since I don't belive in the Big Bang (woman's logic is strange, don't you think?) you may explain why definitions of terms used in astronomy are wrong and explain why you think they should be different than they are and why. You may start with [[Hubble constant]] (unfortunately still measured in km/s/Mpc).
For the benefit of those who don't know what Mpc (megaparsec) is I explain that it is a ''distance'' million times greater then one 1pc (parsec, short for ''"paralax one second"'') from which the radius of Earth odbit is seen as 1" (one angular second). Mpc is roughly the distance between galaxies and it is equal about 3 million light years (distance the lihgt has to travel 3 million years to cover). It is a quite large distance if one takes under consderation that the whole universe has radius of only 13 bilion lught years and the whole universe contains in its space rughly 100 billion galaxies, each galaxy containing about 100 billion stars like our Sun, most with planets flying around them. Just imagine the work the Holy Ghost is involved in while taking care of all of those planets including the Earth as one of them. Of course if we assume that She does all this work instead of leaving it to some natural process which takes care of it by itself. [[User:JimJast|JimJast]] 13:48, 18 September 2011 (EDT)
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