:::And they have pretty much failed at that goal obviously if a overwhelming majority don't believe them. I see why you want it in, i just have a different standard of what counts as a real and possible attempt to redefine the word--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:46, 17 September 2011 (EDT) | :::And they have pretty much failed at that goal obviously if a overwhelming majority don't believe them. I see why you want it in, i just have a different standard of what counts as a real and possible attempt to redefine the word--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:46, 17 September 2011 (EDT) |