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There are loads of examples of innovators who exhibited liberal traits. Thomas Edison, Warren Buffet, and Steve Wozniak to name a few. Hell, if even half the people on wikipedia's list of atheist scientists and technological innovators is correct, than this idea is certifiably false. [[User:JohnPaulJonesRevWar|JohnPaulJonesRevWar]] 22:07, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
 
There are loads of examples of innovators who exhibited liberal traits. Thomas Edison, Warren Buffet, and Steve Wozniak to name a few. Hell, if even half the people on wikipedia's list of atheist scientists and technological innovators is correct, than this idea is certifiably false. [[User:JohnPaulJonesRevWar|JohnPaulJonesRevWar]] 22:07, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
 
::Take it up with Aschalfly. He put it in there. That makes it true. [[User:ScottDG|ScottDG]] 22:10, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
 
::Take it up with Aschalfly. He put it in there. That makes it true. [[User:ScottDG|ScottDG]] 22:10, 29 October 2011 (EDT)
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:::I see above that liberalism is all about government control, despite the fact that anarchy and rebellion from authority are also liberal traits. I also see through links that abolitionism was a conservative movement, despite the fact that many of the supporters of the movement were socialists (such as Horace Greely) or exhibited other liberal traits (Thaddeus Stevens voted for public schools and other social programs). This is rather disturbing, are we rewriting the history books to help conservatism? Surely every major milestone and achievement can't be laid at conservatism's doorstep? I mean, c'mon, it's a great ideology, but it's made up of people and therefore cannot be perfect as people themselves aren't perfect. [[User:JohnPaulJonesRevWar|JohnPaulJonesRevWar]] 22:19, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

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