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::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:09, 6 November 2008 (EST)
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:09, 6 November 2008 (EST)
::: To expand on that, perfection refers to something being without fault in ''what it was designed to do''. A television is not designed to make you a cup of tea, work underwater, or make offspring of itself. Unlike televisions, humans ''were'' designed to make offspring of themselves, but were not designed to create universes out of nothing. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:05, 6 November 2008 (EST)
::: To expand on that, perfection refers to something being without fault in ''what it was designed to do''. A television is not designed to make you a cup of tea, work underwater, or make offspring of itself. Unlike televisions, humans ''were'' designed to make offspring of themselves, but were not designed to create universes out of nothing. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 03:05, 6 November 2008 (EST)
I wondered much the same myself, until it was explained to me in Psychology 101. I know, normally a liberal field. In this case however I got lucky- my instructor was exploring a doctorate in theology. Basically, he gave me the best philosophical proof for the existence of a god I've heard yet, and the same thing you allude to- the finite regress of causes. Pure science, I do not trust. Pure math, I do trust. And I don't remember the exact explanation but I did take away the most important message of it. An infinite regress of causes is mathematically impossible, that is, impossible by the rules of logic the Lord has given us. Therefore there must be an original cause, one which has existed for an an infinite interval prior and has no cause to it. Try to fill that role with anything other than our Lord. You simply can't. Hell, you literally can't. We humans while on this earth can't truly conceive the concept of the infinite.
== Bigotry against Creationism ==
== Bigotry against Creationism ==