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| | **I won't pester you guys much longer. I just wanted to share my opinion. As for the inevitable mentioning of those scriptures, please read this: http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian --[[User:Bocaj910|Bocaj910]] 16:23, 18 November 2011 (EST) | | **I won't pester you guys much longer. I just wanted to share my opinion. As for the inevitable mentioning of those scriptures, please read this: http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian --[[User:Bocaj910|Bocaj910]] 16:23, 18 November 2011 (EST) |
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| | + | ::Even though it doesn't seem like you're going to come back here, I still feel that I should reply to you just to set the record straight. |
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| | + | ::"If such relationships are sinful, than many of my very conservative relatives deserve some worthy punishment." That entirely irelevant - just because many people engage in a certain act does not mean it's not wrong. |
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| | + | ::"A relationship between to consenting gay lovers seems a lot more humane and normal than a pedophile raping an unwilling child." While homosexual relationships do not have to be non-consensual (in contrast to child molestation, which is by definition coercive), they still undermine the moral fabric of society. Alcoholics and drug users might not necessarily engage in acts of coercion, but they're still living an immoral lifestyle. |
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| | + | ::"I could ''choose'' to not act on my natural feelings and ignore my sexuality, but... in the past, where I have attempted such, I was on the verge of suicide. That is certainly not God's plan for me. Likewise, my relationship with the Lord has improved ''since'' I ceased my "ex-gay" practices. To me, it seems like living this way is wholly beneficial to my mental, spiritual, and potentially physical health." So your argument basically goes like this: 1) Not acting on my urges is uncomfortable to me. 2) God does not wish to me to feel discomfort. 3) Ergo, God wants me to have sex with members of my own gender. |
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| | + | ::I ask you, was the misfortune Job had to endure not a part of God's plan for him? Because that is the conclusion one is led to following your logic. God works in mysterious ways, and often we do not feel at ease with the paths he puts us in. |
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| | + | ::"and referring to your link, I see no evil or wickedness in the use of a condom for married couples. Sex is God's gift. No sexual act is wicked between a married couple. Try to argue with that, but the Bible clearly says it." Countless of theologians and clergy men will tell you otherwise. |
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| | + | ::Look at the facts. Every major religions condemns homosexuality (even Islam) and so do most cultures, it's been condemned for generations and even secular psychiatry (known for advocating sexual hedonism due to the views of Sigmund Freud) saw it as a mental ilness until they [http://www.equip.org/articles/is-homosexuality-an-illness- caved in to activist pressures in the 70's]. I don't know how exactly how you tried to fight your urges but you shouldn't have stopped doing it just because it's difficult. A disease may be relentless but that's no reason to stop trying to find a cure. I suggest you go look for a therapist to help you out, and no matter the outcome of the therapy do not act on your urges. Even if Depo-Provera is needed for it I suggest you do everything to fight those urges within you. |
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| | + | ::And again I'll remind you the 90/10 rule. If you want to continue editing here you better add substance. - [[User:Markman|Markman]] 16:58, 19 November 2011 (EST) |