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Oh - and if you ''must'' quote the passages concerned, please use a more reputable translation than the NIV! --[[User:Petrus|Petrus]] 05:57, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
 
Oh - and if you ''must'' quote the passages concerned, please use a more reputable translation than the NIV! --[[User:Petrus|Petrus]] 05:57, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
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:Yes, thank you, Petre.  Paul's opinions are nice, and without them Paulism, er Christianity might never have gotten off the ground, but they are merely Paul's opinions.  Phil, you need to do a bit more reading into the logos theory (among all the other reading you really should do).
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:Phil, reread what Dpbsmith wrote, the problems to which he refered and perhaps you'll understand the point.  Also, if English is the best you can do, pick a better source than the NIV.  Of course, I have the advantage of being able to read Greek (the language of the NT), and as a linguist I know that no translation can capture precisely what was said in the other language (especially shades of meaning and double entendres), thus I am able to compare and contrast the sources and develop a fuller understanding of the text. [[User:NousEpirrhytos|NousEpirrhytos]] 06:30, 9 April 2007 (EDT)
    
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