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== Let's put our thinking caps on ==
== Let's put our thinking caps on ==
::I agree that these are not the only 2 options but that does not change the point. If global warming is real but not anthropogenic, we are in my 2nd case. If global warming is not as devastating as liberal scientists claim, we are either in the 1st case (if there is not sea level rise, I think we won't notice the difference) or in the 2nd (if we notice the difference, there is a huge probability that sea level will rise).--[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 18:43, 10 January 2012 (EST)
::I agree that these are not the only 2 options but that does not change the point. If global warming is real but not anthropogenic, we are in my 2nd case. If global warming is not as devastating as liberal scientists claim, we are either in the 1st case (if there is not sea level rise, I think we won't notice the difference) or in the 2nd (if we notice the difference, there is a huge probability that sea level will rise).--[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 18:43, 10 January 2012 (EST)
:::The two cases I gave are not mutually exclusive. But you probably are correct, that none of the beneficial effects mentioned in the article can occur without severe negative effects as well. --[[User:Toadaron|AaronT]] 18:53, 10 January 2012 (EST)
:::The two cases I gave are not mutually exclusive. But you probably are correct, that none of the beneficial effects mentioned in the article can occur without severe negative effects as well. --[[User:Toadaron|AaronT]] 18:53, 10 January 2012 (EST)
== Sunspot Activity ==
I want to delete the section on sunspot activity, as it is misguided and certainly wrong. The article is dated and the prediction made by the scientist, Willie Soon, that the Earth would start to cool after 2009 did not come to pass (2010 was the hottest year ever recorded). On 1/30/12, NASA released an article <ref> http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2012-01/nsfc-eeb013012.php </ref> which refutes the claims made by Willie Soon. Of course, I don't want to remove it if some people still think it could be still useful unless every agrees that it should be removed.
Basically, the deal is that Dr. Soon thought sunspots contributed significantly to global temperature. Here are links to NASA's website showing average global temperature <ref> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/ </ref> and sunspot activity <ref> http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum/ </ref>. You can see that the two do not correlate, especially in the last couple years. Strikingly, sunspot activity is at the lowest its been in about 100 years, and the global temperature is the highest its been in at least 100 years. [[User:Scottma|Scottma]] 17:56, 1 February 2012 (EST)