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:There is no such thing as a perfectly closed system, so your attempt to limit the important Second Law to closed systems is misplaced.  The Second Law is far more meaningful than that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:49, 16 February 2012 (EST)
 
:There is no such thing as a perfectly closed system, so your attempt to limit the important Second Law to closed systems is misplaced.  The Second Law is far more meaningful than that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:49, 16 February 2012 (EST)
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::Irrelevant. The Second Law only applies to closed systems. If a system isn't closed then energy can be added, thus reducing entropy. That is the MEANING of the Second Law. --[[User:DonauKind|DonauKind]] 23:52, 16 February 2012 (EST)
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