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| | This seems like a good place to begin a discussion of why some views must go unchallenged on this site. For example, if one feels that a subject like George W. Bush is complete, that is, not needing any further information, then by all means--lock it. Unfortunately, many of these instances smack of censorship of the truth. Shouldn't some of the controversy surrounding the president be addressed? Or, is Conservapedia really just a forum for unchecked, unquestioning dogma? I just think we need to talk. [[User:Menkatron|Menkatron]] 16:50, 15 March 2007 (EDT) | | This seems like a good place to begin a discussion of why some views must go unchallenged on this site. For example, if one feels that a subject like George W. Bush is complete, that is, not needing any further information, then by all means--lock it. Unfortunately, many of these instances smack of censorship of the truth. Shouldn't some of the controversy surrounding the president be addressed? Or, is Conservapedia really just a forum for unchecked, unquestioning dogma? I just think we need to talk. [[User:Menkatron|Menkatron]] 16:50, 15 March 2007 (EDT) |
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| − | It was locked because of persistent vandalism. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 16:51, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | :When it is locked, we only get one version. Why not allow people to make changes, add material and revert vadalism? EVERY open source content site is going to have vandalism, it is the job of us editors to fix it, repeatedly if necessary. [[User:Menkatron|Menkatron]] 16:53, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
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| | 15. There are many more examples of these biased articles, all you have to do is look around. I encourage others who are outraged at the complete inaccuracy of these articles, and complete lack of anything even remotely non-Christian, non-Creationist, non-Conservative, and non-American, to add more examples to this list to show that Conservapedia is much more biased than Wikipedia, which it is attempting to "fix". | | 15. There are many more examples of these biased articles, all you have to do is look around. I encourage others who are outraged at the complete inaccuracy of these articles, and complete lack of anything even remotely non-Christian, non-Creationist, non-Conservative, and non-American, to add more examples to this list to show that Conservapedia is much more biased than Wikipedia, which it is attempting to "fix". |
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| − | ::These are from a single user, I take it. Maybe if each is addressed we can move on. [[User:Menkatron|Menkatron]] 16:56, 15 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | :::Yes, they are all by me, and believe me, if you address each one, I will have another 30 ready for you. Fix those? Another 60. Etc. Talk page next time please. --[[User:ALFa|ALFa]] 01:43, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | 1. For centuries textbooks in America have used B.C./ A.D. Common Era means nothing to many Americans, conservatives especially.
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| − | [[User:Geo.plrd|Geo.]] 02:26, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | ::I have replied on my talk page, feel free to respond again, and I awate responses to the other biases. If you would like, I could respond to every Wikipedia bias on the Conservapedia page so that it can be removed, but I suppose that would eliminate the reason for Conservapedia's existance. Also, once you give me an acceptable answer for (or correct) all of the biases I have pointed out (you've got a long way to go still), then I will gladly point out another 30 as I said I would. For now these shall do. --[[User:ALFa|ALFa]] 03:42, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | : Regarding 7, Fox News is one, a piece of the article stating the other side of the issue was deleted and called vandalism, and the page was blocked. [[User:Splark|Splark]] 02:42, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
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| − | ::Unlocked [[User:Geo.plrd|Geo.]] 02:49, 16 March 2007 (EDT)
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