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Talk:Marriage in the Unification Church (view source)
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:Further to this point, the first amendment continues to protect your right to make "disparaging comments" about same-sex couples, even in public. Speech is not - nor has it ever been, in modern times - a hate crime. Read ''R.A.V. v. City of Saint Paul'' if you don't believe me. Hate crime legislation - which actually doesn't yet cover crimes against gay men & women - only applies to ''actual crimes,'' and a speech act isn't a crime except under very limited circumstances (fire in a crowded theater, burning your draft card, "let's kill the president," etc.).
:Further to this point, the first amendment continues to protect your right to make "disparaging comments" about same-sex couples, even in public. Speech is not - nor has it ever been, in modern times - a hate crime. Read ''R.A.V. v. City of Saint Paul'' if you don't believe me. Hate crime legislation - which actually doesn't yet cover crimes against gay men & women - only applies to ''actual crimes,'' and a speech act isn't a crime except under very limited circumstances (fire in a crowded theater, burning your draft card, "let's kill the president," etc.).
:It strikes me that you're speaking from the general conservative fearmongering about how gay rights threatens free speech. You should know that that fear has no basis in fact, nor will it ever. The idea that "hate speech" should be a crime has been firmly repudiated in the United States, as barred by the First Amendment. Please read up on the law and don't trust Ann Coulter & Human Events to get it right ;-)-[[User:LawrenceA|LawrenceA]] 10:39, 14 November 2008 (EST)
:It strikes me that you're speaking from the general conservative fearmongering about how gay rights threatens free speech. You should know that that fear has no basis in fact, nor will it ever. The idea that "hate speech" should be a crime has been firmly repudiated in the United States, as barred by the First Amendment. Please read up on the law and don't trust Ann Coulter & Human Events to get it right ;-)-[[User:LawrenceA|LawrenceA]] 10:39, 14 November 2008 (EST)
::''"Suppose you insult a man's wife, and he hits you (knocking you down). It would be hard for you to press charges against him for assualt"'' I would be mortified if ever a western country had such an absurd law. That someone would even suggest that insulting someone's spouse could be a defence or a mitigating factor to assault shows is frankly quite scary. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 20:00, 17 April 2012 (EDT)