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→Neocons and George W. Bush: also reconsider Daniel Pipes
:::True, but by [[Election Day]] most [[conservatives]] were supporting Bush. Unfortunately, Bush did not have a strong political philosophy so he could be good on some issues (like the Supreme Court and American sovereignty) but then not so good on others.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:08, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
:::True, but by [[Election Day]] most [[conservatives]] were supporting Bush. Unfortunately, Bush did not have a strong political philosophy so he could be good on some issues (like the Supreme Court and American sovereignty) but then not so good on others.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:08, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
I question the inclusion of [[Daniel Pipes]] on the list of neocons. Here he is in April 2003 arguing ''against'' nations-building and the view that Iraq is ready for democracy [http://www.danielpipes.org/1068/a-strongman-for-iraq] and again in Oct 2003 against occupation [http://www.danielpipes.org/1281/let-iraqis-run-iraq]. In both cases he is pushing the administration to reduce nations-building ambitions and get out. I suspect that Pipes is labeled a neocon by leftists for the same reason many others were -- "guilt by association." [[User:JasonNYC|JasonNYC]] 08:27, 14 May 2012 (EDT)