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Line 1: − == Rate of atheist decline ==+ − − The newly updated 2012 "Status of Global Mission" report states that atheism is now losing 800 adherents per day rather than the 300 reported in the 2011 IBMR. Also, agnosticism is losing 1,100 adherents per day (I know the article is about atheism, but the agnostic statistic shows decline in secularism as well, good statistic for other articles.) Here's the link http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/CSGC-Resources.cfm -Clint − ::Clint, I do believe there are a number of factors that will cause [[global atheism]] to lose adherents at an accelerating rate. For example, creation evangelism is likely to increase.[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/evoolutionists-will-soon-by-behind-8.html] However, could you give me the precise link rather than the general link to the various resources as far as the statistics you gave? This link is a more general link: http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/CSGC-Resources.cfm A more precise URL would be appreciated and I will update content at Conservapedia if it is warranted. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:16, 15 May 2012 (EDT) − ::::Here is a more precise link http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/StatusOfGlobalMission.pdf. Also notice that the number of Christians increases 83,000 per day, a 3,000 per day increase since the last "Status of Global Mission" report. -Clint − :::Clint, that is very good news. I think it can be doubled to 1,600 less atheist a day though greater evangelism in Asia, increased [[internet evangelism]], greater creation evangelism, Christian apologetics having a more prominent profile on the internet and Western Christians doing more evangelism in their communities. I think Western Christianity has been too passive when it comes to evangelism in the West and in confronting atheism. Atheism is one of the easiest worldviews to dispel and that is why prominent atheists and evolutionists are chicken to debate. See: [[Atheism and cowardice]]. Global atheism is extremely vulnerable right now and its vulnerability will likely increase with time. Have you seen the Eric Kaufmann material I posted yet? See: [[Decline of atheism]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:54, 15 May 2012 (EDT) − ::::I actually own the book, Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth? It was very interesting to see the different birthrates of atheist parents vs. Christian parents. -Clint − :::Clint, who produced this document as it gives no authors or organizational name: http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/StatusOfGlobalMission.pdf [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:18, 15 May 2012 (EDT) − Clint, forget my last request. − − Here is why: − − The rate at which global atheism is declining is increasing rapidly according to respected seminary Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (GCTS) which publishes these statistics in January of every calendar year. − − The International Bulletin of Missionary Research (IBMR) obtains their data from GCTS reports. − − In February of 2011, the American Spectator reported that according to IBMR every day there were 300 less atheists a day as can be seen here: http://spectator.org/archives/2011/02/28/thriving-christianity I discovered that this came from the GCTS January 2011 report. − − In 2012, you showed me that a report from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary showed that each day there are 800 less atheists a day as can be seen here: http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/StatusOfGlobalMission.pdf [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:51, 15 May 2012 (EDT) − − ::::Ok, no problem. I'm just trying to get the good word out about the Good News! -Clint − :::Clint, can you create a new yahoo email and/or skype account and give the account name on this page? When I contact you, I can tell you the geographic location that you live at in addition to your IP address as I have this information via Conservapedia checkuser so you will know that it is me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:41, 15 May 2012 (EDT) − − == One thing you need to clarify == − − You keep referring to the "leadership" of the atheist movement. What you haven't clarified is how many atheists consider themselves a part of this movement, and are followers of men like Dawkins and Myers, and how many atheists are ''not'' involved with any organized group, and are unaffected by anything it does. I have a feeling there are many more who fall outside of any organization, and who don't give much thought to God or religion or even their own lack of belief, or outright disbelief. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:14, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − :::I have never claimed the atheist movement has strong leadership. In fact, it could be argued that I have argued the opposite (for example, [[Atheism and cowardice]]). Plus, I wrote this article: [[Atheist factions]]. Nevertheless, your "herding cats" comment is a valid point. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 10:43, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − ::::::SharonW, thanks. I added this sentence: "In addition, there is a lot of disharmony in the atheist movement (see: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Essay: Atheism: A house divided and in global decline|Atheism: A house divided and in global decline]])". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 10:47, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − − ::::My point was actually not that there was disharmony, but that many people are apolitical, and don't pay attention to anything outside of their own lives. They're just not involved with any movements, or organizations, and many people who might consider themselves agnostic or atheist aren't even aware of these so-called leaders or organizations for atheists. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 14:30, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − :::::Wired magazine made the observation that atheists [[Atheism and women|tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged males]] which would lend some support to what you have to say - as in "herding cats". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:18, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − :::::::Thanks Sharon, I added this material: "[[Wired (magazine)|Wired]] magazine made the observation that atheists tend to be [[Atheism and women|quarrelsome, socially challenged men.]] " [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:26, 28 October 2011 (EDT) − ::::::::Talk about completely missing the point. What she was saying is that most atheists aren't part of any "atheist movement." They just don't believe in gods.--[[User:RayFlagherty|RayFlagherty]] 08:16, 23 February 2012 (EST) − − I don't think the atheists are ready for battle; it's like they got their middle ages armor on while they do an uphill climb on a grease-covered mountain as they read the wrong manuals on how to fight! [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:26, 7 November 2011 (EST) − :::Yes, the allies of atheism/evolutionism are getting weaker (liberal press, etc.) plus the atheists/evolutionists are totally unprepared for the onslaught of a grassroots campaign like the [[Question evolution! campaign]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 02:44, 7 November 2011 (EST) − − == A thought == − − Atheists seem intent that there is no God- all while believing that we come from pond slime. They claim that God is some fairy tale that people made up while believing something easily as seemingly impossible. They should really actually listen to and debate creationists, instead of laughing them off as crazy lunatics.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 16:16, 12 November 2011 (EST) − − == References == − − User:Conservative, could you please clean up the references? They look really messy! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:04, 23 February 2012 (EST) − ::AugustO, thanks. Footnote #5 looked "messy" plus I got rid of two bare links as footnotes. Other than that I think the footnotes are fine in terms of formatting and I will keep them the same. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:45, 26 February 2012 (EST) − :Just the references? If you ask me the whole article's a mess. --[[User:RayFlagherty|RayFlagherty]] 08:13, 23 February 2012 (EST) − :::Ray, can you offer us better demographic analysis than Eric Kaufmann on the expected "great shrinking" of [[global atheism]] and how he expects it will affect Western atheism? Does Eric Kaufmann say that atheism will shrink at an increasing rate in the future? Is global atheism shrinking now? Is the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] esteemed by the American public now? What did Sam Harris say how the American public views atheists? Among various worldviews did a reputable survey say that atheists were the least trusted group in America? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:35, 26 February 2012 (EST) − − @User:Conservative: '' Other than that I think the footnotes are fine in terms of formatting and I will keep them the same. '' They aren't and you shouldn't: − *Footnotes 3 & 4 are identical − *Footnotes 5 & 10 are identical − *Footnotes 11 & 12 are identical − *ditto footnotes 23 & 24 − If don't know how to handle multiple occurrences of a single source, I'm happy to give a link to a basic tutorial. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:47, 28 February 2012 (EST) − − :::I am really not into using the wiki footnoting format where one footnote is used for multiple citations. It makes it hard for future editing sometimes. Ibid makes sense for footnotes in offline papers though. Sorry, just a preference of mine. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:02, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
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