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Debate: Should we criminalize homosexuality? (view source)
Revision as of 06:45, June 4, 2012
, 06:45, June 4, 2012→No
No. Even if I did agree that homosexuality is wrong(which I don't), I don't think it could make it through the house or senate. Evidence from both sides is way too shaky, and the religious motive behind it would be dangerously close to being unconstitutional. It would also bring up many comparisons to Nazi Germany, where they criminalized homosexuality, by punishment of death, and while I'm fully aware that even if such legislation was to be written up, it wouldn't be nearly as terrible as Nazi Germany, the comparison would stick the moment it became public. Furthermore, the amount of money such legislation would cost(sinking money into already overzealous law enforcement, and the prison system for a completely ridiculous piece of legislation would be a terrible idea no matter how you look at it) in the end would be enormous and a terribly unnecessary and unaffordable burden on America and Americans in today's economic climate. [[NSmyth|NSmyth]] 19:37 28 August, 2011 (EDT)
No. Even if I did agree that homosexuality is wrong(which I don't), I don't think it could make it through the house or senate. Evidence from both sides is way too shaky, and the religious motive behind it would be dangerously close to being unconstitutional. It would also bring up many comparisons to Nazi Germany, where they criminalized homosexuality, by punishment of death, and while I'm fully aware that even if such legislation was to be written up, it wouldn't be nearly as terrible as Nazi Germany, the comparison would stick the moment it became public. Furthermore, the amount of money such legislation would cost(sinking money into already overzealous law enforcement, and the prison system for a completely ridiculous piece of legislation would be a terrible idea no matter how you look at it) in the end would be enormous and a terribly unnecessary and unaffordable burden on America and Americans in today's economic climate. [[NSmyth|NSmyth]] 19:37 28 August, 2011 (EDT)
No. We should prevent homosexual marriage, but while America was founded a Christian nation (see [http://creationwiki.org/William_Penn William Penn]), it was founded on the understanding that other views should be allowed to coexist. As Thomas Jefferson said in the [http://creationwiki.org/Virginia_statute_for_religious_freedom Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom],
{{cquote|"Whereas, Almighty God hath created the mind free;
That all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and therefore are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being Lord, both of body and mind yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, That the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world and through all time...
That to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy which at once destroys all religious liberty because he being of course judge of that tendency will make his opinions the rule of judgment and approve or condemn the sentiments of others only as they shall square with or differ from his own;"}}
Jefferson believed that while government should imitate the style of the Bible, God did not force others to believe through coercion, and neither should we. So long as their lifestyles don't affect the rights of others to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, they should be allowed to live as they please. Marriage should not be allowed because it affects the public sphere but what they do in the privacy of their own homes ought to be their business.
If you look at what the Bible says, it says we can't justly judge others according to the Mosaic Law because by it, we ourselves are guilty. Only God can judge by such a Law, because we ourselves are all guilty of death before God, and cannot expect God to forgive us if we can't forgive others. We cannot cast the first stone without being sinless ourselves.
{{cquote|Romans 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Romans 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.}}
Homosexuality is just one of a number of sexual sins that include divorce, adultery, and lusting after the wives of others in one's heart. All are guilty of death before God, and cannot cast the first stone if not sinless themselves. Those who judges others according to the Law will not be forgiven by God their own guilt; and all are guilty. --[[User:Jzy|Jzy]] 02:45, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
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