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/* Discussion about order/disorder */ If you agree this type of [[perpetual motion machine]] is impossible, then why do you think it is impossible, if not due to the Second Law?
:Mr. Schlafly, no one here is seriously arguing that perpetual motion machines are possible, so please stop bringing them up as a distraction. Instead, please address the substantial criticism of your position: Entropy/disorder is not always increasing everywhere all the time. Local decreases in entropy can occur without violating the Second Law. Simply saying that entropy or disorder is always increasing cannot be used as an argument against evolution because it is not always true - it is true for the universe as a whole, but not for every single thing in the universe. --[[User:Randall7|Randall7]] 21:02, 14 June 2012 (EDT)
 
::Nearly all processes, with a few exceptions that are easily explained (such as phase changes), are thermodynamically irreversible and thus generate an increase in disorder or entropy. Only intelligent intervention can preserve order. Do you agree with that? If so, theories that defy this Law are no more plausible than suggesting that heat can flow spontaneously to a warmer location.
 
::The impossibility of a [[perpetual motion machine]] that keeps going with constant energy illustrates this. But notice how some deny, or won't admit, it's impossibility. If you agree this type of [[perpetual motion machine]] is impossible, then why do you think it is impossible, if not due to the Second Law?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:33, 15 June 2012 (EDT)
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