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:Just plainly listing abortion as a risk factor is false because it suggests that a woman who has an abortion is at greater risk than a woman who was never pregnant.  That is simply not true, and it is plain in the research.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 21:45, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 
:Just plainly listing abortion as a risk factor is false because it suggests that a woman who has an abortion is at greater risk than a woman who was never pregnant.  That is simply not true, and it is plain in the research.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 21:45, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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:: Your comparison is badly misleading, and scientific nonsense.  A woman who is pregnant is not choosing between an abortion and not being pregnant.  She is choosing between an abortion and childbirth, and it is indisputed that choosing abortion is harmful to her health.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:32, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
    
:Please would you define your understanding of 'falsely denies that carrying a pregnancy to term is healthier for the mother than having an abortion'? As far as I can ascertain, the reverse is the truth. According to [http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/ib_0599.html]maternal deaths per 100,000 abortions in the developed world are of the order of 0.2-1.2 per 100,000, whereas in the USA maternal deaths associated with giving birth were 17 per 100,000 (12.2 in  the UK) [http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/maternal_mortality_2000/mme.pdf]
 
:Please would you define your understanding of 'falsely denies that carrying a pregnancy to term is healthier for the mother than having an abortion'? As far as I can ascertain, the reverse is the truth. According to [http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/ib_0599.html]maternal deaths per 100,000 abortions in the developed world are of the order of 0.2-1.2 per 100,000, whereas in the USA maternal deaths associated with giving birth were 17 per 100,000 (12.2 in  the UK) [http://www.who.int/reproductive-health/publications/maternal_mortality_2000/mme.pdf]
 
[http://www.doh.gov.uk/cmo/mdeaths.htm#direct deaths]. The conservative view is of opposition to abortion, and conservatives have many reasons to oppose it, but it does this site and your argument no favors if you misrepresent the facts. [[User:Britinme|Britinme]] 21:48 10 April 2007 (EDT)
 
[http://www.doh.gov.uk/cmo/mdeaths.htm#direct deaths]. The conservative view is of opposition to abortion, and conservatives have many reasons to oppose it, but it does this site and your argument no favors if you misrepresent the facts. [[User:Britinme|Britinme]] 21:48 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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:: The above data are silly and misleading, even if true.  The above risks are far too small to be worth considering, and are orders of magnitude smaller than the risk of breast cancer and premature birth of future children.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:32, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
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