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:::::To be fair, legalization of homosexual relationships may be a proxy for a jurisdiction's attitudes for homosexuality.  I don't think it's a very good proxy; it would probably be a better idea to examine sexual orientations of athletes themselves rather than attitudes about homosexuality held  by residents the places they represent.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 12:13, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

:::::To be fair, legalization of homosexual relationships may be a proxy for a jurisdiction's attitudes for homosexuality.  I don't think it's a very good proxy; it would probably be a better idea to examine sexual orientations of athletes themselves rather than attitudes about homosexuality held  by residents the places they represent.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 12:13, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

:::::: But it's not the ''attitudes'' of the athletes that [[User:Conservative]] says are relevant. It's the actual ''orientation'' of the athletes. He posted a number of references to homosexuality and health problems. Without commenting one way or the other on their merits, they only apply if the athlete himself is a homosexual. So I'm inclined to agree with GregG here. Perhaps Conservative's theory is right, but if it is, he's going about proving it the wrong way. [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 14:08, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

:::::: But it's not the ''attitudes'' of the athletes that [[User:Conservative]] says are relevant. It's the actual ''orientation'' of the athletes. He posted a number of references to homosexuality and health problems. Without commenting one way or the other on their merits, they only apply if the athlete himself is a homosexual. So I'm inclined to agree with GregG here. Perhaps Conservative's theory is right, but if it is, he's going about proving it the wrong way. [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 14:08, 4 July 2012 (EDT)

We know that bigger populations tend to gain more Olympic medals (see above). Show me that societies which accept homosexuality tend to have high birth rates. My educated guess is that there is an inverse correlation.  

We know that bigger populations tend to gain more Olympic medals. Show me that societies which accept homosexuality tend to have high birth rates. My educated guess is that there is an inverse correlation.  

Athletes with higher degrees of mental toughness achieve more (see above). I would think that societies with higher degrees of mental toughness would have lower suicide rates. We know that atheists tend to be more accepting of homosexuality and they have higher suicide rates than the general population. See: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheiam and suicide]]. Also, compare the suicide rates of countries and their acceptance of homosexuality as a possible benchmark for the mental toughness of the societies.  Alternatively, show me societies accepting of homosexuality tend to score high on mental toughness test such as Peter Cough's test. Also, [http://psychology.about.com/library/quiz/bl_eq_quiz.htm Emotional intelligence (EQ) test] score and a person's [http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/501-550/article517_body.html "Adversity quotient"] test score would be possible benchmarks as far as measuring mental toughness, but obviously the latter would be better. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:13, 6 July 2012 (EDT) EQ is popular in management circles and perhaps different societies have been measured in terms of their EQ. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:13, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

Athletes with higher degrees of mental toughness achieve more. I would think that societies with higher degrees of mental toughness would have lower suicide rates. We know that atheists tend to be more accepting of homosexuality and they have higher suicide rates than the general population. See: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and suicide]]. Also, compare the suicide rates of countries and their acceptance of homosexuality as a possible benchmark for the mental toughness of the societies.  Alternatively, show me societies accepting of homosexuality tend to score high on mental toughness test such as Peter Cough's test. Also, [http://psychology.about.com/library/quiz/bl_eq_quiz.htm Emotional intelligence (EQ) test] score and a person's [http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/501-550/article517_body.html "Adversity quotient"] test score would be possible benchmarks as far as measuring mental toughness, but obviously the latter would be better. EQ is popular in management circles and perhaps different societies have been measured in terms of their EQ. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:13, 6 July 2012 (EDT)

== Math'd -- Gay marriage ==

== Math'd -- Gay marriage ==