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Debate:Does God punish sinners for eternity? (view source)
Revision as of 21:16, July 20, 2012
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Our nature is greater than we often imagine when we consider the eternity of Hell (or the eternity of the Heavenly/Earthly Paradise). We are eternal in nature. Hell is the (in my opinion, optimum) physical environment conducive for humans to exist outside all relationship to God. God is unhappy that people must exist there, but there is no other place of existence for those who reject the very source of their existence. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:24, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
Our nature is greater than we often imagine when we consider the eternity of Hell (or the eternity of the Heavenly/Earthly Paradise). We are eternal in nature. Hell is the (in my opinion, optimum) physical environment conducive for humans to exist outside all relationship to God. God is unhappy that people must exist there, but there is no other place of existence for those who reject the very source of their existence. [[User:GiLGiJ|GiLGiJ]] 18:24, 13 July 2012 (EDT)
===To Destroy Evil===
Yes, God should. It's ironic that the same people who say God shouldn't punish sinners are the same ones who ask how God can exist if He allowed Hitler to rule, and yet condemn God for punishing the nations in the book of Judges, when they're all the same issue. That issue is that God needs to punish evil, and humans and Satan ARE the source of evil. God can't destroy evil and have a universe devoid of evil without punishing sinful humans and removing/separating them from everyone else. God destroyed the nations in the book of Judges because as seen from Leviticus 18, they were practicing numerous abominations, including sacrificing their own children by burning them alive. Such evils needed to be stopped from spreading to Israel and other nations, just as God needed to stop Hitler (which I believe He did intervene to do - see Nietzsche's prophecy warning the Jewish people 50 years earlier e.g.).
As Paul says in Romans 3, "But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man) God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?" The plain truth of the Bible is that God needs to wipe out humanity to destroy sin and evil. He gave an example of His willingness to do so with Noah, and only preserved Noah because He decided there was some hope still for the human race in Noah's godliness. Jesus is the answer not because through Jesus we can be forgiven, but rather because through Jesus we can be changed to become new people who will stop sinning, who are committed to God and are given new hearts and new minds designed for righteousness and not wickedness. Only because of these new natures CAN we be forgiven. Salvation is the key not because of forgiveness but because through it we are changed so we can inhabit God's new coming universe without messing it up with evil and harming others the way we have this one. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Jzyehoshua]] 17:16, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
==No==
==No==