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| | :::::::::::::: Mr. Aschlafly, I am unsure if you are purposefully misapplying my point so that your argument appears to be stronger, but I feel that your point is less than successively argued. In fact, the reason that Lincoln is trumpeted as being one of the greatest Presidents to have ever had the honor of holding the office is because, pointedly, history holds him comparable to George Washington in regards to leadership and vision for the country. I am also at ends with your rather presuming statement of Washington's Christianity, considering the well documented Enlightenment-era beliefs he held associated with his principles as a Freemason, a largely deist organization.[[User:JustinU|JustinU]] 00:44, 23 February 2011 (EST) | | :::::::::::::: Mr. Aschlafly, I am unsure if you are purposefully misapplying my point so that your argument appears to be stronger, but I feel that your point is less than successively argued. In fact, the reason that Lincoln is trumpeted as being one of the greatest Presidents to have ever had the honor of holding the office is because, pointedly, history holds him comparable to George Washington in regards to leadership and vision for the country. I am also at ends with your rather presuming statement of Washington's Christianity, considering the well documented Enlightenment-era beliefs he held associated with his principles as a Freemason, a largely deist organization.[[User:JustinU|JustinU]] 00:44, 23 February 2011 (EST) |
| | :::::::::::::::JustinU, it is well documented in Washington's own writings as well as the writings of those who knew him that he was a committed Christian within the Episcopalian Church. The "deist" allegation is from the late-20th century only. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:57, 23 February 2011 (EST) | | :::::::::::::::JustinU, it is well documented in Washington's own writings as well as the writings of those who knew him that he was a committed Christian within the Episcopalian Church. The "deist" allegation is from the late-20th century only. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 00:57, 23 February 2011 (EST) |
| − | [[Image:Clog-dancer.gif|thumbnail|right|150px|Maybe we should have a annual parade for St. George Washington like we do for St. Patrick. :)]]
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| | :::The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia correctly declares and supports the doctrine that every true Christian believer is a saint.[http://eastonsbibledictionary.com/saints.htm] The [[Apostle Paul]] wrote: "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the <big>'''saints'''</big> which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved." (Ephesians 1: 1-6) Washington appears to have been a true Christian.[http://www.christiananswers.net/q-wall/wal-g011.html] Therefore, George Washington was a saint. Maybe we should have a annual parade for St. George Washington like we do for St. Patrick. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 04:33, 23 February 2011 (EST) | | :::The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia correctly declares and supports the doctrine that every true Christian believer is a saint.[http://eastonsbibledictionary.com/saints.htm] The [[Apostle Paul]] wrote: "Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the <big>'''saints'''</big> which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved." (Ephesians 1: 1-6) Washington appears to have been a true Christian.[http://www.christiananswers.net/q-wall/wal-g011.html] Therefore, George Washington was a saint. Maybe we should have a annual parade for St. George Washington like we do for St. Patrick. :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 04:33, 23 February 2011 (EST) |
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| | And quite honestly, have you ever thought that some of these were just because they were mouthfuls? | | And quite honestly, have you ever thought that some of these were just because they were mouthfuls? |
| − | Language evolves over time. Please, guys, you're making a mountain out of a molehill-- just like the liberal media. | + | Language evolves over time. Please, guys, you're making a mountain out of a molehill-- just like the liberal media. {{unsigned|Kaitlynnm}} |
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| | + | == Utter nonsense == |
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| | + | *How is contracting Christ's Mass to Christmas secularized? |
| | + | *The X in Xmas is actually a Greek letter Chi for CHrist |
| | + | *Civil calendar just refers to that used by the government |
| | + | *How is saying the Fourth of July secularized? I suppose if something happened on the day I must say Independence Day because July 4 is secular |
| | + | *When was Easter ever called Resurrection Sunday? |
| | + | *Who even says "Praise be!" |
| | + | *Afterlife is not secular language. Any set of beliefs includes something that happens after life == afterlife |
| | + | :Please sign your posts. --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 00:58, 11 March 2013 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::I've heard that some Evangelicals are using "Resurrection Sunday". Also, while "Chi" in Xmas might have originally been true, it has been used in an anti-religious manner for a long time now. [[User:Danq|danq]] 17:37, 25 April 2013 (EDT) |
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| | + | ::Should also mention, atheists and anti-Christians use "Xian" and "Xtian" now too. [[User:Danq|danq]] 16:10, 20 May 2013 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Gee Whiz == |
| | + | Whilst true this is used instead of Jesus, I disagree it is secular. It is much like the phrase "Cor blimey" (God blind me), originally used to curse without using God's name in vain.--[[User:Patmac|Patmac]] 15:46, 13 May 2013 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Should this be included? == |
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| | + | Would it be a good idea to add 'Oh my gosh' as an example of secularized language? Although it is a replacement for 'oh my G*d', which violates the fourth commandment, it still seems like an attempt to take God's name out of something, which by definition, is secularized language. -[[User:Mark Adams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 09:26, 7 January 2021 (EST) |