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Talk:Political spectrum/definitions (view source)
Revision as of 01:44, April 12, 2007
, 01:44, April 12, 2007→Criticisms of a one-dimensional view: yes, that's true
::I would say neither. There is no reason to suppose every political movement falls on the left/right spectrum. --[[User:Redblue|Redblue]] 07:10, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
::I would say neither. There is no reason to suppose every political movement falls on the left/right spectrum. --[[User:Redblue|Redblue]] 07:10, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Good answer. When proven that this theory is not doctrinal then, will you join us is stating it is only a theory?
:About Def. 2: '''egalitarianism, and collectivism'''. This is unacceptable. to equate "egalitarianism" to "collectivism" is ludicrous.
:About Def. 2: '''egalitarianism, and collectivism'''. This is unacceptable. to equate "egalitarianism" to "collectivism" is ludicrous.
::Nothing in Def. 2 states or implies that egalitarianism is the same thing as collectivism. If they were the same, one word would suffice.
::Nothing in Def. 2 states or implies that egalitarianism is the same thing as collectivism. If they were the same, one word would suffice.--[[User:Redblue|Redblue]] 07:16, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Then you can't use the both words in this regard.
:About Def. 3: '''Bogus arguement.''' economic freedom is personal freedom.
:About Def. 3: '''Bogus arguement.''' economic freedom is personal freedom.
::Sorry, your objection is bogus. Many people argue that economic freedom helps promote personal freedom, and vice versa. But they are not the same thing.
::Sorry, your objection is bogus. Many people say economic freedom helps promote personal freedom, and vice versa. But they are not the same thing. --[[User:Redblue|Redblue]] 07:16, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
:::Let's adopt your view for a moment; since economic freedom and personal freedom are not intertwined, I assume you have no objection to slavery then, since enjoying the economic freedom of a paycheck isn't necessary as long as you are still afforded the personal freedom to enjoy a hot meal once in awhile or using the bathroom.
::''Liberal in its secular meaning, describes someone who favors personal freedom in all its forms[1], as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others''
::''Liberal in its secular meaning, describes someone who favors personal freedom in all its forms[1], as long as it does not conflict with the freedom of others''
:You cannot have it both ways. A Liberal and a Libertarian are not the same thing, and you cannot use the same definition for different things on two different pages. But thanks for trying to ameliorate dissenters by "throwing 'em bone" anyways. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:47, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
:You cannot have it both ways. A Liberal and a Libertarian are not the same thing, and you cannot use the same definition for different things on two different pages. But thanks for trying to ameliorate dissenters by "throwing 'em bone" anyways. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:47, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
The 'political spectrum' is obviously worthless. The only meaningful divisions are between '''us''' (whoa re obviosuly correct about EVERYTHING) and '''them''' (who are EVIL INCARNATE and want to see us all DESTROYED). --[[User:BDobbs|BDobbs]] 21:41, 11 April 2007 (EDT)
:In general, yes, that is how it is taught in American public schools, and repeated in American mainstream media. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:44, 11 April 2007 (EDT)