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Talk:Genesis 1-8 (Translated) (view source)
Revision as of 20:15, July 21, 2012
, 20:15, July 21, 2012→"Before All Else": new section
I was taught that God's Hebrew name (which my computer does not support typing) combines elements of the present, past, and future forms of "to be" into some impossible grammatical conjugation. The future form is YHYH (yud-hay-yud-hay, pronounced y'hiyeh), the present form (if Hebrew had a word for the present form "is", which it doesn't), would be HVH (hay-vov-hay, pronounced hoveh), and the past form is HYH (hay-yud-hay, pronounced hayah, like you're karate-chopping somebody). I don't know if this is exclusively a Jewish concept, and it might very well be since Christians don't typically study the Bible in Hebrew, with the exception of people who are full-blown religious scholars. But the point was that God is, was, and will be. In other words, He is eternal. You kind of have to stretch your mind to see the "was" hidden in the name, but I guess that's moot anyway since if 2,000 years ago they said "is", it's clear that He "was" at this current time anyway (and still "is" and "will be"). [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 16:10, 21 July 2012 (EDT)
I was taught that God's Hebrew name (which my computer does not support typing) combines elements of the present, past, and future forms of "to be" into some impossible grammatical conjugation. The future form is YHYH (yud-hay-yud-hay, pronounced y'hiyeh), the present form (if Hebrew had a word for the present form "is", which it doesn't), would be HVH (hay-vov-hay, pronounced hoveh), and the past form is HYH (hay-yud-hay, pronounced hayah, like you're karate-chopping somebody). I don't know if this is exclusively a Jewish concept, and it might very well be since Christians don't typically study the Bible in Hebrew, with the exception of people who are full-blown religious scholars. But the point was that God is, was, and will be. In other words, He is eternal. You kind of have to stretch your mind to see the "was" hidden in the name, but I guess that's moot anyway since if 2,000 years ago they said "is", it's clear that He "was" at this current time anyway (and still "is" and "will be"). [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 16:10, 21 July 2012 (EDT)
== "Before All Else" ==
I've seen translations that begin Genesis 1 with "Before all else" instead of "In the beginning" to resolve the paradox of the "If God created everything, then who created God" objection. It makes it clear that God existed before the Universe, something that would be seemingly impossible if the Universe was literally created "In the beginning". That is, God is an intelligence that antedates the Universe. (Bonus points if you can tell me where I got that last phrase from - you'd be surprised who said it.) It's not a perfectly literal translation, but some argue it's more effective. What are other people's thoughts? [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 16:15, 21 July 2012 (EDT)