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I personally think a number of the editors there, including in Wikipedia's upper ranks, are employed by Obama's campaign. The bias there resulted in one of Wikipedia's founders leaving to create Citizendium. It's gotten really bad over there. Wikipedia might as well be called Liberalpedia because they're the same thing. And because Wikipedia is so liberal, I suppose wikis like Conservapedia are needed to provide balance and the opposing side. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 19:17, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
 
I personally think a number of the editors there, including in Wikipedia's upper ranks, are employed by Obama's campaign. The bias there resulted in one of Wikipedia's founders leaving to create Citizendium. It's gotten really bad over there. Wikipedia might as well be called Liberalpedia because they're the same thing. And because Wikipedia is so liberal, I suppose wikis like Conservapedia are needed to provide balance and the opposing side. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 19:17, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
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And when I'd quote from the guidelines (NPOV, WP:BLP, Notability, Wikipedia:DRNC, Wikipedia:CCC, WP:Lead Section, Wikipedia:Fringe) to prove them wrong and show they were misinterpreting the rules, or use heavy sourcing to show indisputably the proposed material had more than enough prominence and relevance (since by Wikipedia standards you're just supposed to "follow the sources" and faithfully report what major news sources say), they'd just have the discussions closed, and then claim "edit warring" if you'd try to restore the conversations. They just claim "Consensus" for this even though examination of talk page history shows numerous people supported mention of Obama's controversies, and were silenced or ignored repeatedly in the same manner. What they do there is really dishonest. I have more respect for people if they're at least blunt and straightforward about their biases and opinions, than if they try to pretend they are objective while being hypocrites. --[[User:Jzyehoshua|Joshua Zambrano]] 19:34, 27 July 2012 (EDT)
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