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At "The Amazing Meeting 9", organised by skeptic and homosexual atheist [[James Randi]], Dawkins and Watson walked out of each other's talks in protest at each other's behaviour during the incident. Dawkins also announced that in future he would pay for childcare at Amazing Meetings, probably as a dig at Watson.
At "The Amazing Meeting 9", organised by skeptic and homosexual atheist [[James Randi]], Dawkins and Watson walked out of each other's talks in protest at each other's behaviour during the incident. Dawkins also announced that in future he would pay for childcare at Amazing Meetings, probably as a dig at Watson.
=== Thunderf00t and Greg Laden's removal from freethoughtblogs.com ===
The atheist [[Thunderf00t]] is the most popular evolutionist at YouTube.
On July 1, 2012, atheist [[Ed Brayton]] declared:
{{cquote|As many of you are no doubt aware, there’s been a lot of strife in this community lately. Some of it has been in public, some of it was in private and some of it may well go from being private to public as a result of all of this. So let me give you the news and clear the air:
We are parting company with two of our bloggers: Thunderf00t and Greg Laden. We wish them both the best but, unfortunately, their behavior towards other members of the community has made it impossible to keep them as part of our network. This is not a matter of a disagreement or difference of opinion, but of behavior that we cannot condone or support.
None of this is a reflection on the worth of the many contributions that both of these people have made to the atheist cause. I hope and am confident that they will both continue to offer a lot of good things to this community.<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/07/01/major-changes-at-freethought-blogs/ Major changes at freethoughtblogs - Ed Brayton]</ref>}}
The matter which appeared to spark the contention was how to properly deal with the significant amount of [[misogny]] within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Women's views of Richard Dawkins]] and [[Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]).<ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/07/01/thunderf00t-check-your-email/ Thunderf00t, check your email - PZ Myers]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKH3trPpgY&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A&index=1&feature=plcp Thunderf00t on how to handle misogny in the atheist community]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/07/01/skepchickcon-and-the-harassment-lol-icy/ SkepchickCON and the Harassment LOL-icy]</ref><ref>[http://freethoughtblogs.com/thunderf00t/2012/06/29/is-it-freethoughtblogs-or-group-think-blogs/ Is it ‘Freethoughtblogs’ or ‘Group-think-blogs’?]</ref>
[[Vox Day]] wrote that Thunderf00t's removal from Freethoughtblogs exemplified [[PZ Myers]]'s unwillingness to intellectually engage his opponents and his lack of integrity.<ref>[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/07/free-fascistthoughtblogs.html Vox Fay on Freethoughtblogs</ref>
==== Rebecca Watson response to Thunderf00t and his fans ====
''See also:'' [[Rebecca Watson and Thunderf00t factions of atheism]]
On July 1, 2012 [[Rebecca Watson]] wrote post [[Elevatorgate]] controversy:
{{cquote|[[Skepchick]] has been exposed for what it is: a totalitarian [[Nazi]] clique who created an anti-harassment policy specifically so that men could harass women in bars and [[Muslim]] could force us to wear burqas. I know it’s true because noted atheist intellectuals Paula Kirby and [[Thunderf00t]] said so!
I debated whether or not to write about this because the recent insults about Skepchick have been so self-evidently ignorant and wrong that I felt it would look like we were picking on tiny, angry babies. And no one likes to see that. I’m relenting only because the sheer amount and absurdity of the insults have reached a level that cannot be ignored, like a large mob of angry babies brandishing pacifiers and blankies as weapons.<ref>[http://skepchick.org/2012/07/hot-gossip-were-all-burqa-wearing-nazis/ Hot Gossip: We’re All Burqa-wearing Nazis]</ref>}}
== Abundance of vitriol and a lack of calm and reasoned discussion post Elevatorgate ==
== Abundance of vitriol and a lack of calm and reasoned discussion post Elevatorgate ==