Talk:Bob Jones University
Before I write about it I want to bring this up. BJU does not allow jazz, country, rock or even contemporary Christian music, isn't it interesting that they allow guns (albeit in a limited fashion)
"All weapons must be turned in for storage. Trigger locks are required for pistols. Fireworks are not permitted on campus."
Now, I'm not a gun-control advocate, but can't a gun hurt you more spiritually (not to mention physically) then Louis Armstrong or Johnny Cash? DLerner 21:17, 4 March 2008 (EST)
I'm new here and just wanted to know.... Would it be appropriate to specify that the college is accredited by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools, Accreditation Commission? DrCB 23:18, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
Andy, just because the Democrats ALSO supported slavery, racism and segregation of African-Americans, does not mean that you should delete facts from this article. BJU supported segregation long after the Democratic party had given it up, (in fact it wasn't until around 2000 BJU lifted their ban on interracial dating, these are facts.)
If you feel that the Page on the Democratic party should mention the history of their attitude toward African-Americans, by all means add it. Removing valid and referenced information from this page simply because it makes a conservative institution look bad is ridiculous. ---user:DLerner--- 20:33, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
- Mr. Schlafly, could you please explain what is so wrong about these citations? We all know that they are accurate, and it doesn't make sense to remove them just because of ideological differences. WillD 18:07, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
Bob Jones University freely admits there are allegations of sexual abuse at their university. They freely admit to firing the organization they hired to investigate the allegations. Yet a short factual edit to the Conservapedia article concerning these allegations is removed to satisfy the whims of an administrator. Looks like people will have no choice but to get their information concerning this matter from the liberal press since at least one conservative on this encyclopedia is afraid to admit a conservative university may have an abuse problem. It would be nice if conservatives had their own resources to research concerning this allegation, but no, the truth must be suppressed within the conservative community. I’m sure Wikipedia has something about Bob Jones firing GRACE. Should conservatives go to the liberal alternative since this information is unavailable on Conservapedia? I won’t, but others will, you can count on that.--NormaN 12:48, 14 February 2014 (EST)
- This isn't Wikipedia, where some obscure allegation by the liberal media becomes a massive "controversy" section far out of proportion to anything proven. Sexual abuse is far worse at public schools, so that entry would be a better location for the issue.--Andy Schlafly 14:10, 14 February 2014 (EST)
Darn right this isn’t Wikipedia. I thought on Conservapedia article edits wouldn’t be deleted unless the matter was first discussed with the person making the edit in question. Guess I was wrong. My edit complied perfectly with the ‘rules’, yet you violated the rules written out at Conservapedia: How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia; rule 10 … Conservapedia does not censor any facts that comport with the basic rules. Even BJU is acknowledging the story is becoming wide-spread. [] The Christian and conservative media are questioning BYU’s reasoning behind their tactics. Yet you want to deny reality by claiming, without merit, this is an obscure allegation. Even more bizarre is your utterly unsupported assertion that sexual abuse is much worse at public schools. You are simply incredible.--NormaN 20:23, 14 February 2014 (EST)
- Three things here, Norman. First, you're going to present solid, factual evidence of the alleged abuse at BJU, including testimonials from the victims; you will not gather those sources from the mainstream liberal media (New York Times, Wash. Post, CNN, NBC, etc.), and you will not gather those sources whose authors have a bone to pick with Christianity and/or conservatism. Second, you're going to post them here without doing so in a hostile manner. Third, we have repeatedly published news reports against the public school system of sexual abuse against students by teachers, so your claim that it is an "unsupported assertion" is bizarre on your part. Karajou 11:03, 15 February 2014 (EST)
- 1. Issuing orders I see, very well. Let me start with a statement from BJU admitting there are abused students attending their university. Given the current climate in our world and the steady stream of heart-breaking revelations of sexual abuse that have taken place in secular and Christian spheres, the Board of Trustees and administration of Bob Jones University have reviewed the University’s counseling practices and current policies that govern our responses to sexual abuse as we learn of it from the students and the constituency we serve. http://www.bju.edu/about/grace.php
- Alleged BJU victims speak out.
- Former BJU student Jeffrey Hoffman. http://www.wspa.com/story/24667188/former-bju-students-speak-out-on-canceled-sex-abuse-investigation
- Erin Burchwell. http://www.wyff4.com/news/local-news/greenville-news/former-bju-student-claims-sex-abuse-was-hidden/24358248
- 2. Where have I been hostile? I’m relentlessly following the rules. Now only if some of my critics would do the same. You know, lead by example.
- 3. I never claimed public school students weren’t subject to abuse. I would be a very stupid person if I were to deny such an obvious fact of life within the American public school system. Please stop misrepresenting my assertions. Schlafly said, “Sexual abuse is far worse at public schools, so that entry would be a better location for the issue”. He did not provide a reference therefore I requested he support his assertion with evidence. I would like to see any evidence concerning the abuse rates between public schools and BJU. I looked but was unable to find anything. Hence my concern. Would you be so kind as to provide the news sources you claim Conservapedia has published concerning the comparative abuse rates between public schools and BJU? Thanks.--NormaN 23:38, 15 February 2014 (EST)
- You were hostile with your response to ASchlafly above; you're going to respect this website and the people in it, up to and including your responses to whomever about whatever.
- As to what you're denying concerning sexual abuse in the public school system, we can go tit-for-tat on this. Public university run by liberals with liberals teaching: Penn State. Who's the child sexual abuser they tried covering up for? Jerry Sandusky. We've already posted that sort of news. Or this one: the Michigan Teachers Union - the entire union - fighting to get tax dollars to give to one of their own who was convicted of raping a child.
- Now, if you really want to do a non-biased article on the BJU problem, go right ahead and make a separate article on the scandal, its causes, its victims, and what is going on right now. I'll even back you up on it because, if true, it's nothing short of despicable and the perpetrators need to be thrown in a cage. But don't act as though it's a conservative thing that such a scandal exists while passing off what happened on the liberal side of the fence as nothing. Karajou 01:02, 16 February 2014 (EST)